/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

Kek the OP immediately reminded me of that one infamous Tumblr post of the girl who wanted to cosplay as "fandom Levi" but wanted to know how she could differentiate herself from the "canon Levi" so that people won't think that she approves of the canon representation.

Literally every single Hoyo character/ship ever in all of their games. I've never seen so much rampant mischaracterization, terrible writing and shoehorning of cringeworthy tropes like alpha daddy doms and weepy, feminized ukes regardless of ship before I checked out the fanart and fanfic for their games.

I guess it must be because the characters themselves are so shallow and lacking in depth that they end up getting projected onto big time by the fans and treated essentially like dolls. It's especially hilarious starting Genshin for Zhongchi/Tartali though and seeing the absolute nothingburger that was their entire relationship during the Archon Quest and then never getting any kind of relevant content ever again afterward. Never falling for that shit again.

Flanderization of traits is pretty common in huge fandom. A good example would be Kokichi from Danganronpa, who canonically is an absolute bitch the entire game and very cruel but because of his love hotel scene half the fandom has decided he's a cutesy lovestruck boy and use it as an excuse to sandpaper off his more interesting mean traits.

every single persona character as well

>>7138
He's both of those things, it's kind of the point that he's a cutesy shota but also someone who does all sorts of creepy shit

>>7141
Oh I wasn't saying he wasn't cute, but for most of the game he's devious and you wouldn't guess it based on the fandom.

>>7138
To be fair most Danganronpa characters are victims of fandom woobification, especially after the big revival the fandom experienced back during Covid. I used to read a lot of DR fics, a lot of Saiouma in particular and I'm pretty sure most of them were written by teenagers. IMHO the Danganronpa character that gets mischaracterized the most is still Komaeda. Between tumblr girlies turning him into an uwu sad softboi who did nothing wrong and reddit dudebros with the most bad faith interpretations of every single aspect of his character, he was doomed from the start.

>>7133
I think every character gets fans that ooc him but there are cases where basically the entire fandom misinterprets them which is what you mean I assume.

The first that I can think of are IDW Rodimus from Transformers. Rodimus is a juvenile, very boyish adult whose dream is to lead a group through epic space adventures till eventually find some legendary knights that allegedly disappeared long ago. He's basically an adult chuuni with a lack of attention span that wants be a hero.
Fans misunderstand this as being weak, soft uwu and girl (their association, not mine). He's canonically is a daredevil, but one with honor, he is funny and he develops a backbone as the story progresses. For some reason though he also became the icon of lesbianism within the fandom.

So now everybody but a few woobifies him, pretends he was either a girl or trans and cannot imagine him being anything but a weak, broken and insecure baby that craves validation. The validation is the only canon part, but to him that was inherently connected with strength, success and adventures, not a sexual experience and someone telling him that he's valid for being trans or something lol

It's a bit sad because while he was never one of my favs I always thought he was a good, funny and somewhat relatable character. But I have to remind myself of this true self whenever I see people posting about him because I get annoyed when they bring him up.

>>7147
I've ranted here about how bad I hate valveplug but specifically how valve=pussy. And this extends to how by giving every male a pussy, they femenize the entire cast until the only masculine traits are for whoever's topping.

So.

Starscream in canon is ruthless, actually insane, intelligent, cunning and there's a great reason why he can survive literal eons of war.

Fanon makes me sick. Just a weepy, whiny, wet pussy by every standard and definition. I think it was when Starscream crawled on his knees in G1 that people decided he was a woman and never changed that fact.

I don't like fanon Starscream and it seems the only people who try to get his character as is, pair him with women.

I like the characters in their various iterations. I like G1 Cyclonus and Armada. I'm open to various fan interpretations but holy fucking shit I've never seen someone manage to get a character so wrong when they have in universe parallel universe versions of themselves.

Rodimus, in G1, I love a lot. I would love to see more G1 level headed insecurity. I've only seen him as a side character in fanfic but only one time have I read him in a way that made me go- yeah, that's Rodimus alright. I'm not the biggest fan of IDW, but I generally stay away because it's the home of every penis+vagina work and quite frankly I'm sick of seeing clits and pussy lips on robot men. You can't even find robot anal. How tf do people not consider robot anal?? And as such, you get the uwu whimpering, sobbing girl wearing a man's body. Or, mech's.

>>7180
Yes. I actually had a typo saying "are Rodimus" because I wanted to mention SS too but cut down on the textwall. SS headcanons are awful, half of the fandom got a brainworm that makes them believe he was an abused housewife or trans. It's not only misinterpreting his personality it's also a receipt for fandom drama because you can't like anybody that allegedly mistreated him since it's the same as condoning violence against women or something.

I think that SS is a well-written character which makes this sadder. They take of his cunning, badass and interesting traits away to make him a battered wife and they never ask why he's even Meg's righthand man if that's the case. You don't become an upper echelon of a dictator if you don't want it lel
He was even a senator of the oppressive regime in IDW (which is the SS many of them focus on) so they cannot even pretend he was a victim of it like Megatron, he just backstabbed the senators he was working with when he felt that Megatron would coup them, he's an opportunist.

I also believe that some fans have no concept of reboots so they mash traits from 15 different continuities together for a character which makes their interpretations even more chaotic. I was never a fan of the so-called continuity soups.

>>7180
To be fair pretty much all the decepticons (aside from maybe Soundwave and tard wrangler Cyclonus) act like stupid children in the G1 cartoon, most of the actually intelligent traits from Starscream and the rest of the cast more came from later adaptations.

>>7225
>I also believe that some fans have no concept of reboots so they mash traits from 15 different continuities together for a character which makes their interpretations even more chaotic. I was never a fan of the so-called continuity soups.
I generally ignore fanworks (I stick to fanfic) with eight different tags because I don't consider Bayverse and Animated to be even remotely close in characterization.

IDW SS is not Prime. I think most fans tfwiki their information. Leading to messes like Knock Out and Breakdown. Knock Out in IDW is a sanded down, woobified 'positive' character because of over correction and you cannot show evil gays. I end up filtering the pairing out simply because there's a high chance he'll be a mix of both continuities based off information that's bad jokes and sarcasm instead of straightforward character information.

>>7231
I think G1 fanworks are hilarious because it'll either be written like it was always serious or have the weirdest high school level drama. Cyclonus is like a transplant from another universe (kinda is) because of his tone and actions vs every other character. Fandom G1 reads like IDW at its worst parts. I usually stick to the serious stuff because there's genuinely an attempt to make the characters act themselves.

For toys slap fighting, there's a sense of awareness that they're at war and they play the soldier mentality straight. Like the army men in Toy Story. I cannot take Megatron trying to get G1 SS pregnant at face value because it's like I'm reading a bad soap opera. Aka, IDW at its worst.

I’ve had to mute almost every artist in my fandom because of how they portray a character just to fit their ship. In canon, he never even came close to confessing, yet they draw him kissing the girl’s hand and acting like some generic flirt. It’s so cringe, just make original characters at this point

>>7233
>I generally ignore fanworks (I stick to fanfic) with eight different tags
Same. I generally tend to ignore fics with too many tags. The good ones usually stick to one single ship and less than a handful of side characters and content tags. And yeah, the characters are too different and most ships in these fics are crack since they ship stuff like IDW1 Megs with G1 Optimus and I cannot get behind it because both characters have influenced each other's growth. You cannot just separate and replace them.

There is a whole paragraph I could type up about fans who are unwilling to write IDW OP because he was a cop and therefore not woke enough.
>I think most fans tfwiki their information
Sadly yeah. Either that or youtube "reviews". Apparently many lack the attention span to read a 23 page long comic issue each month, it's depressing. I had legit discussion with people who pretended that it wouldn't make a difference how you ingested the plot as long as you know it. Just.. no. Like, this is the whole point of narrative fiction. The "experience". That aside wiki is only giving you a pure fact-based summary. It doesn't describe nuances, facial expressions or behavior of characters.

I don't understand how someone can love something but being unwilling to read the source material it's coming from.
>Knock Out in IDW is a sanded down, woobified 'positive' character
I liked them as the evil putschists and planet rulers in IDW2 but it was cancelled right when it was getting interesting for them. I was always into Breakdown.

>>7238
A lot of fans in the fandom I am in have this brainworm that makes them think one of our favs was an insecure softie when he's actually a loud, smart and prideful tsundere man with anger fits.
My man is a little shit and I love him for that, stop softwashing him.

>>7233
What people do to KO baffles me because the entire appeal of his character was that he was a flamboyant flirt willing to torture the guy who killed his assistant, if you sand away his edges what do you even have left??

It's funny when you tell which character in a pairing the artist/author prefers more. Some pairings are more prone to OOT than others. Jotakak for instance is very prone to turning Kakyoin into a shy soft nerdy boy even though besides being tactical and lonely child he never comes close to this canon-wise. Not even a bad ship, it has canon backing. Somehow just half the fandom seems to have read a different part.

>>7288
Oh god I hate when they do this. It's either that the bottoming character is feminized or the topping one written as non-character and I hate both. The fascinating thing about shipping are the dynamics and such people take them away.
Plus points if it's BOTH. Which is also rather common. The bottom is basically a girl and the top just a penis.

>>7289
>Character is physically strong canonically
>Turn him into an agressive "dom" with no regard for uke's feelings

It's the worst type of OOC since it warps a lot of nice or nuanced characters into an agressive borderline abusive boyfriend for no reason

>>7339
>Todoroki in fandom is this quiet dom daddy
>Todoroki in canon would take someone to a hospital because he doesn't understand a pun
bnha fanon is a master class in writing the exact opposite of canon. Not to say I dislike fanon, just that, it's more often than not- OOC taken to peak. Midoyiya, the protagonist, is a stuttering, crying uke femboy or hyper aggressive, muscle badass and somehow both are exact opposites of how he is in canon. It's mainly funny.

>>7289
>fandom preferred bottom character gets written like a weepy girl
>top just exists
>90% of the fanart and fic with the top is for the ship
>in canon the top said one line to the bottom, heavily favors another guy, bent over backwards to help him, and is his mentor/close friend in another universe
I just don't understand where some of these ships come from. It feels like people see a short weak guy and a tall strong guy and immediately start making the most homogenized tropey slop.

>>7341
A lot of MHA writers, even the objectively talented ones, are bad about making Bakugo/Todoroki/Kirishima too "cool" and draining Deku of his boyish charm. In big fandoms early fanon seems to shape modern fanon in a way that newer or returning fans can instantly ding and you are right it's really funny. Like "bakusquad" and "dekusquad" are mostly fandom inventions and they unravel as a concept very early on in the story.

>>7341
Yeah it's usually these extremes regardless of the fandom. One of my two favs is headcanoned as insecure, blushing uke even though he's a grown ass assertive dude in his late 30s and my other fav is written like a meathead even though both of them are muscular, competent and smart.
>>7342
I often wonder if it's actually what you say. People just seeing designs and shipping. I experienced this with a annoying het ship I disliked in the early 10s. Turned out that some of the most prolific artists for it openly said they had never watched the anime. They just saw the size gap and fell for it without ever bothering to check the source material, it's just because the dude was the biggest and the girl the smallest character of the series and both of them interacted a bit.

>>7135
>Hoyo character/ship
so fucking true

A thing fandoms tend tondo that I totally get behind and enjoy is taking a light-hearted series more seriously than the writers. For instance Sonic is ridiculous and with the exception of Archie and some parts of the Adventure era game it's very goofy. Still fandoms have latched on to angsty sonadow works and churn out serious completely tonally detached works covering topics Sega wouldn't dare touch.

Any author who can make grounded works even if they aren't in the same spirit of the OG has my love.

>>7379
>I experienced this with a annoying het ship I disliked in the early 10s. Turned out that some of the most prolific artists for it openly said they had never watched the anime. They just saw the size gap and fell for it without ever bothering to check the source material, it's just because the dude was the biggest and the girl the smallest character of the series and both of them interacted a bit.

Are you talking about KlK and Gamagori x Mankanshoku?

>>7379
I really can't like any Hoyo ships, even the super praised yaoi like the ship in that picture. They're all so boring to me, it feels like they want to hit the popular tropes but the game can't really give them the time to show why they're interesting. It's fine for fandom, people making something good out of a mid canon is what fandom is all about. But in canon I don't care about any of these ships including this Sumeru yaoi that gets such praise. My problem with all their ships is only one character feels fleshed out and the other one is just there and they're only shipped because the fandom treats it as "canon". I have a hard time being interested in a ship when only one character has some development and the other has no purpose outside the ship.

These people pretending to be nerds are always so funny, because you can spot them instantly by asking a few questions. I am into a series where the main character starts off as a huge asshole from the early acts to midway, but the fandom portrays her as a mindless generic bubbly girl, and I hate it. They ruined her for mass appeal

R/AO3 can be a little obnoxious at times but I do like threads like these:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AO3/comments/1itksra/any_scene_in_a_fic_or_popular_characterization_in/
Because I can get a glimpse of the state of things in fandoms I otherwise would never have glanced at. It's pretty fascinating to look through. Especially the ones like picrel where they go on about a specific incarnation of a character that ultimately lead to a sort of spiral downward.