No.69
>>67how intense is the homolust between these two? also is it like a hateship sort of thing or what?
No.71
>>69I'd say it's about a 7/10. This manga is full of explicit gay fanservice (mostly played for laughs) so the Sugimoto and Ogata stuff is more subtle, but I think the author drops some fanservice and hints if you pay attention, and well, everyone I know thought the sucking scene
>>65 was pretty gay and intense lol
I don't think they are going to be endgoal or anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ogata was canonically gay either
>>68Based, anon
Do you have the sauce for your pic?
No.72
>>71>Do you have the sauce for your pic?It's from a preview, you might be able to find it with a Google search of the title. I'll look for it too, hope this helps!
https://otakurepublic.com/product/product_page_2466527.html?ref=tag_page&type=tagpage_product No.76
It's cat day in Japan so here's some Ogataposting
>>69I forgot to ask you: what do you mean by hateship? They're on and off rivals, if that's what you're asking.
No.83
>>82I hope the fujos learning Japanese here would make their own fujochan translation group in the future so we can get it translated
No.85
>>84it'll be a while before i have free time and it's really long, but i can take a look later. no promises, though. not familiar with the series either so i hope i don't need to understand canon to get what's going on.
No.86
>>82>>83I would translate the shit out of it if I could find it in japanese. I could only find some random pages in japanese, but they're not even from any "meaty" parts. I saw it for sale at an online bookstore (I don't remember which) but it was 70 bucks and I don't have that money to spend on porn manga lol
>>85Anon I will love you forever. Thanks in advance in case you do it! I guess all you need to know is that the character with a huge facial scar is called Sugimoto Saichi and the one with sidecuts is called Ogata Hyakunosuke. Both were soldiers for the Russo-Japanese war and Ogata is higher in rank to Sugimoto.
No.287
>>86>>87i'm always happy to translate if it'll feed my god complex! please see attached. if the page says 'pass,' it means there's no text on the page besides sfx.
there might be errors; i only did a quick proofread, skipped a lot of repetitive moans, and played pretty fast and loose with the translation. i also don't know how good the original chinese translation was. however, it's hopefully enough for you to figure out what's going on in here. hope you enjoy, 'nonnies.
No.289
>>287Thank you so much, anon! You're the real MVP. Could I edit your translation into the doujin itself? Then I could post it here. It's okay if you'd rather not.
I'm guessing the "Jinulanke" guy is supposed to be Kiroranke translated into Chinese, it's this Ainu guy. He's often paired with Shiraishi, so I guess the implication is that they were fucking at the time. (Bonus Boutaro with pigtails cause he's cute)
Also all the "M" guys (I guess aside from one, which is a super minor character) were made up anyway.
No.290
>>289you're welcome to do so and share anywhere you'd like. if it gets posted outside of here, i'd appreciate if you could add a disclaimer stating clearly that this is a jp -> cn -> en translation. no need for any form of credit.
if you have any questions about certain lines (things that don't make sense, moans i was too lazy to translate, etc.) feel free to ask as well.
No.293
>>292I basically mean the series reaching it's climax, ending and characters dying, yeah. When
Kiroranke died a lot of artists unfortunately deleted their art out of sadness and a lack of inspiration to create new content. It's a normal thing for Japanese artists to delete their old work when leaving fandoms, from what I've noticed.
No.295
>>294Beautiful! I love this artist
>>293Saving all fanart I can since ch. 310 new developments kek
No.346
>>342Bless you anon! I was worried it was lost forever
No.350
>>342Thank you so much, anon! Now it's properly saved. I still wanna edit it onto the doujin, I just didn't have the time just yet. Hopefully soon enough!
>>348>this artist plans on nuking their gallery after Golden Kamuy endsNever understood this. Sounds super counter-productive for an artist that uses social media…
>>340IKR.. And the blood and the uniforms. So nice.
No.353
>>350>And the blood and the uniforms. And the scars and their personalities, hot bodies too… so many things gets your hooked to it.
Image spoilered for body hair
even though I find it hot No.371
>>367Kind of wish it was less of a scrote looking dick
but still hot since I'm a filthy degenerate regardless No.372
>>371>scrote looking dickwhat does this mean
No.373
>>372It's a thing moid artists would do mostly, you can tell the difference if a fujo artist drew it or if a moid did. There will be more veins on it, more foreskin flaps and most likely will have more curve to it on the bottom or with a weird curve to it altogether. Some fujos find it unappealing, I wished it had a typical BL peeper because the artstyle does give me fujo vibes, thats all. I can make a comparison list once I gather some materials for it.
No.374
>>373I think attempting to draw a clear distinction between art typically characteristic of BL and art characteristic of geicomi in fanart of a series like Golden Kamuy is asinine… It's very rare you'd see a typical fujoshi lust after a man that looks like Tanigaki to begin with for example, what with his muscles and body hair and sagging testicles. It begets a certain type of fan who isn't going to be interested in more archetypical fujoshi tropes and nuances and what-have-you. I've also seen Osomatsu-san artists draw penises of pretty much an identical nature before, and you know the audience of that series. This is less to do with an artist's sex and moreso to do with their level of degeneracy, really.
I don't bring Tanigaki up out of the blue, mind you, I'm familiar with that artist and she's a big OTani fan. Shame they laid waste to their Pixiv gallery a while back.
But that's a lot of words to say that veiny masculine curved dicks are good, actually.
No.375
>>374I dunno, I see a lot of art of GK and I think a lot fans are girls.
No.381
>>380Nah, USA's a woman, and a very talented one at that. She's done Pixiv drawing streams where you can hear her voice.
No.382
>>381No way, really? Going by the twitter I always thought it was a guy! A lot of the self insertish stuff had a male avatar as well, picrel. She nailed the coomer moid look for her het hentai stuff kek
Do we have these streams, still?
No.383
>>382Unfortunately not, she's in the habit of nuking her gallery and that includes streams. There's a lot of pre-GK art she did that's lost to time. I'm particularly sad that her Pixiv upload disclosing her CSP brush settings was deleted…
Funny you mentioned self-insertion though, since I'm fairly certain her female Sugimoto serves as that for her, hah. Can't blame her though, with all of the good-looking guys in this manga. The way she draws Koito is too sexy.
No.390
>>383>her upload disclosing her CSP brush settings was deletedMaybe you already have these, but I guess it's worthy a shot. Maybe it can be useful for someone else!
>The way she draws Koito is too sexy.It is! She's degen as shit, but now I feel a little less bad for enjoying her femSugixKoito dj a bit *too much*. I liked how Koito realistically played with her g-spot, if the author is a woman it makes much more sense, then. Just wish she would tone down the tits a bit lol
No.1979
I bought the first three volumes of the manga in 2016 when it literally just started in my country and had to sell them and a lot of things because I needed money. I somehow managed to never see spoilers so I'm considering giving it another try someday. I like reading actual books now instead of reading on a screen because it's much more comfortable but manga are getting more and more expensive so I'm hesitating to get physical copies of the manga a little.
No.1982
>>1979If you can afford a big one off payment you could try buying an ereader and loading CBZ files from the high seas on it (rips of the English release should be about, and the fan translations which I always liked the translation notes on since they tried to match historical locations and cultural details). I personally use a Kobo because it allows pretty much all file types. Very good for focusing on fanfics and getting through volumes without distractions, and doesn't require brightness adjustments in sunshine. Only downsides are black and white screen and most are smaller than a regular volume print, so you'll likely find yourself zooming for small text here and there, but the newer screens are way more responsive so zooming is quick. The ink and magnets display doesn't use much battery so you get weeks between charges and it doesn't weigh more than a paperback. Honestly I've been in love with these things for over a decade and they're so much easier to carry around than books that get beat up while traveling, especially with how flimsy some prints have gotten. Overall I think I've saved money by entertaining myself with free stuff.
No.2631
I just started the anime and I'm looking forward to the rest but kek the 3D bear in the first episode was laughable. Please tell me the next seasons are a bit better in terms of quality.
No.2636
>>2631iirc they thankfully reworked the bear animation in the 2nd season/ova and are now 2D drawn, keep pushing nona it gets better!
No.2665
>>2636I'm watching it again, I'm trying to enjoy the show little by little because I binge watched JJK which was fun but I forgot how fast it could be to watch 50 episodes of an anime. I just started the second season, no cheap 3D bear in sight so far, thank god kek. The first season took time to set up everything so I assume everything else will be faster? I'm interested in what's going on for now.
iirc the manga is over, but is that the case for the anime adaptation or are the last volumes too recent to be adapted yet?
No.2669
>>2666>Usami enjoyerBased. This psycho hottie is overlooked too much. His love for Tsurumi is cute, and he probably has crazy sex
No.3248
>>3243>the GK discussion was the only good thread on LC IMOIm surprised that meaningful discussion could be made in that place without a yumefag coming down at your throat for spreading "ugly man psyop" or shilling "roidpigs".
That aside, Im glad youve enjoyed GK! its a top series of mine as well and I enjoy how dynamic and diverse the cast is; it had me rooting for both the antagonists and protagonists, something I rarely seen pulled off (the only other series Ive seen being dorohedoro, which is severely lacking in yaoi content imo) I also enjoy how the characters shift allegiances often, especially Ogata, it was cute seeing him getting along with the main cast for a while; hes such a wild card between all sides I love how unpredictable and insane he is.
>Nikaidou is painfully underrated. He has the debuff of not being a shipping character (he's more like a cute pet) but I like him a lot as well.I love that comparison kekk, hes hilarious as hell and i always crack up whenever he shows up.
(sorry for the 3rd reupload, the spoiler filter just wasnt working and apologies to anyone I have accidentally spoiled in the process orz)
No.3279
>>2665I'm giving the manga anothe try after giving up on the anime because the pacing felt weird to me, I didn't realize I dropped the anime so long ago kek.
No.3283
>>3279The anime actually cut out a lot of manga content and had to adapt them later in the form of OVAs which explain the weird pacing. IIRC they only intended to animate 12 episodes plus 1 OVA to be sold alongside a manga volume but the anime was well received which allowed them to greenlight a 2nd season.
The Barato arc is highly underrated and is best appreciated if you've seen the movie Yojimbo. Plus I love me some Ogata and Hijikata screentime
No.3285
>>3283>The anime actually cut out a lot of manga content and had to adapt them later in the form of OVAs which explain the weird pacingI'm not surprised, I suspected this because of the pacing. That's a shame because iirc Golden Kamui is a very successful manga and it's long enough to have longer seasons imo.
No.3503
>>3248>it had me rooting for both the antagonists and protagonists, something I rarely seen pulled off (the only other series Ive seen being dorohedoroFunny that you mention this because Dorohedoro and GK are my to-go examples whenever I talk about that stuff. In that sense I fully agree!
It's sadly very rare but it's such a pivotal part of story telling for me it largely determines whether I get obsessed with a series or won't care. I usually end up preferring antagonists anyway, so making them mains with own arcs and PoV is a god given blessing for me.
What both series do especially well is that they also mix and develop every group and individual. There is no a status quo everything has to return to. The groups you assumed to be fixed break apart in the course of the story, characters betray each other, enemies befriend each other, switch factions, come back or go solo. Then there is the development most of the antags had in relation with Tsurumi, especially Tsukishima and Koito.
It's fantastic and makes a series so much more interesting and varied if you aren't forced to stick to the same MC and dynamics for 20+ volumes. Nothing makes me angrier than a series that has the interesting things happening off-screen because the PoV can't detach from the central protags or long-running manga that never change anything about their side characters.
No.3588
I'm still not done reading GK but man it's so good. The start was a bit slow for me and I didn't like the parts about ainu culture because thet felt like I was watching a boring documentary at first but it keeps getting better and better. I've read 20 volumes so far and will keep reading this weekend. I also agree with
>>3503 and
>>3248 I love that all the characters are more or less equally important or I would have found Sugimoto and Asirpa too boring to keep reading. Instead I'm glad to see them when they're the focus again after seeing all the other characters doing their own thing. I need to see Tsurumi more often though, he's funny as hell but please don't spoil anything yet. I also have to admire Satoru Noda for his dedication to drawing censored dicks and balls as often as possible for no reason whatsoever.
No.3591
>>3588I feel the same and honestly I fear that the first few volumes are the reason for why so many get filtered by the series. GK is one of the very, very rare cases where the claim "I swear it gets much better later" is actually true. It was never bad, mind you, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the rest. But the series only really starts cutting its own path and shining after the big players are properly introduced and you get the first big developments like Tanigaki joining the group and Ogata betraying Tsurumi.
No.3592
>>3591I actually got filtered way back in 2016 when I bought the first volumes of the manga just based on the premise as soon as they got officially translated where I am and found the beginning too slow for my taste compared to how I earned a lot less money than before at the time so I couldn't buy all the volumes on time to keep up and I didn't want to read scans because I just kept seeing spoilers for anything I ever looked up online. The slow beginning isn't entirely a bad thing though, it helps make the stakes higher by proving more context.
Now I'm just hoping the ending isn't totally rushed because the last completed manga I read JJK and it's the exact opposite, it has a rushed beginning, the middle is pretty good, it's obvious the manga artist knew what he wanted to show and tell from the beginning and was putting hints here and there all the over the manga and even prefectly connected it to his previous manga which was supposed to be a oneshot, then it's like he had to hurry up and finish the manga as soon as possible while forgetting to conclude a lot of important things he introduced not to keep things mysterious on purpose but because "oops I forgot about that" according to himself. It's safe to assume Noda knew where the story would go from the very start because of how Ashirpa is supposed to already have all the hints to understand the tattoos but after seeing it's sometimes not enough to be able to show a satisfying ending I'm still a little worried now.
No.3593
>>3592Yeah it's not bad, it just pales in comparison with how fucking good the rest is.
The premise itself might also alienate some too, since it's basically just a treasure hunt. It's almost irrelevant for the enjoyment, because what makes GK great and what the series is focusing on are the characters, dynamics, character developments and the action/comedy combo that should be a treat to everybody that likes classic western, action or slap-stick movies. Thing is just that manga fans that haven't read it don't know that yet.
The other problem is probably the anime adaption. Most people choose the anime if they want to get into something that has both and because of the CGI bear, the mediocre animation and the fucked pacing the anime gives off a bad impression. I myself postponed the series for years after watching s1 and only considering it a 6/10 "great premise and characters but badly executed, not sure if fault of the anime or manga too".
I recommended the series to a few people and all of them watched it instead of reading it and told me it wasn't that good and gave up on it.
No.3594
>>3593The anime is pretty bad yeah, I talked about how I started it but didn't finish it in this thread earlier because the pacing made it seem like everything was happening so fast it was nonsensical. I'm more into manga than anime in general so I started with the manga very early, tried the anime a lot later and now I'm reading the manga again. It's a shame the anime isn't as good as it could have been with how popular the manga is. The voice actors are pretty good, it feels like a waste. It reminds me of how I feel for the Eyeshield 21 anime, the manga is excellent and the anime is ass, doesn't adapt everything, but the voice acting was so good I forced myself to watch most of the episodes back then.
No.3611
I finally finished reading the manga. It's a masterpiece.
For some reason I already assumed the treasure wouldn't just be gold because that would have been too good to be true, and irl I keep hearing people around me saying that buying gold, a house or an apartment is a better investment than just keeping your money in a bank account more and more often. I was also suspecting something anytime a character would mention prices and an author or translator's note would point out how much it costs now in today's yen after taking inflation into account. It almost made me feel smart. I'm really glad I didn't stick to the anime and decided to read the manga after noticing how fucked up the pacing was.
As for the fujo part of it. I didn't interact with the fandom all that much, mostly to avoid spoilers so that's a very good thing for me but I just learned Sugimoto/Ogata is one of the most popular pairing. The scene from
>>65 makes me understand why but I don't know why I'm not into it all that much. I also remember an artists I liked a lot long ago who shipped Tsukishima/Koito, now I finally understand why. Pic rel lives rent free in my head though. I need Freud's opinion on Ogata.
No.3612
>>3611I am glad you liked it. IMO GK is some of the biggest blessings fujos received the last decade. Not just for how aggressively gay and fanservice heavy it is but how all of this happens in a seinen mainstream series where you didn't expect any of it at first.
I will probably forever compare other series with this because this is the shit I mean when I say I want some fanservice too, lol. Every day seinen and shounen are shoving creepy, out-of-character fanservice with little girls down my throat but a simple gay joke is where most mangaka and otaku draw the line and I can't stand it.
All that aside, the series has so many varied dynamics that it's a feast for shipping fans and Noda is such a bro, he was aware of the shipping and had fun with it, he's even attracted to Tanigaki and called him the "husband" he would choose lol. Sometimes he added little extras for the fans (like the little blood "heart" during Sugimoto/Ogata's fight at the end), gave us a canon dick-size ranking AND he hates people that sexualize Asirpa which makes me I wish we had more mangaka like him.
Anyway thanks to the faction switching and backstabbing, the pasts etc you are given multiple shipping options for some characters. Like Ogata for example is shipped with: Sugimoto, Yuusaku, Tsurumi and Vasily, casually even with Usami. And you have a lot of fuel for some of them which is great! Tsurumi is even worse, you can literally ship him with the most members of the seventh division since they are obsessed with him. Plus Arisaka (the crazy old arms designer) and Sugimoto (the latter became more popular the last years, probably because the movie has attracted new fans).
And you get endless doujinshi too lol. Mandarake is currently listing 9700 doujinshi for this series and to that you have to add the new ones that aren't resold (yet).
Personally also preferring YuuO over SugiO. The latter is good for hot hatesex fics, VasiO good for healing but while I save art for them it never really tingled my shipper sense. Plus, YuuO has IMO the best fanart.
No.3613
>>3612>he's even attracted to Tanigaki and called him the "husband" he would choose lolI get it, he's definitely husband material. To my surprise I'd say Tsurumi also is husband material
after seeing how much he wanted to avenge his wife and his daughter. But he already has a harem of mentally ill devoted young men. It's pretty funny how the manga is pretty brutal and clearly targets an adult audience from the beginning, but halfway through the series Noda decided to draw at least one censored penis per volume. It's very sudden but I'm not complaining.
>Sometimes he added little extras for the fans (like the little blood "heart" during Sugimoto/Ogata's fight at the end)If you're talking about chapter 309 then I only noticed after seeing anons talking about it on lc. The version I read translated sound effects so the heart is a little obscured but one.
>Mandarake is currently listing 9700 doujinshi for this seriesI don't have access to mrm anymore but if most of these doujinshi are several years old it's possible the artists reposted them entirely on pixiv, so I have to check this out. Many of them do this when they don't feel like reprinting everything for every doujinshi event they attend.
No.3614
>>3613>but halfway through the series Noda decided to draw at least one censored penis per volume.I feel like he always wanted to do that but didn't since it's not considered appropriate by many and it's risky for seinen/shounen. It all started with the relatively harmless but bold "boner" joke with Nihei that I still remember because back then it baffled me but I loved it. He then gradually tested the waters and realized everytime that the gay jokes didn't diminish his audience. At some point he even gained fans which were mostly women, because the type of man that reads sausage fests like this is usually okay with such jokes to begin with. It's the waifu fags that are offended but they avoid such manga to begin with.
I a sense Noda is a good role model for fujos, should any of us ever get her on series lol. Start with a boner joke or something and move forward from there until you're allowed to draw naked men touching each other.
>it's possible the artists reposted them entirely on pixivYeah I downloaded a bunch of them. Only some are doing it but that's still enough to get a good bunch. I like how many dj it has, sometimes I happen to order like 15 dj from mandarake since there is so much and mandarake is nice for shipping directly. Toranoana orders became more of a chore since mastercard became completely useless.
No.3615
>>3614>it's risky for seinen/shounenSeinen manga and shonen manga aren't really comparable in that aspect, but on the other hand when I read Bastard when I was a teenager and saw Dark Schneider bare ass every two chapters, sometimes even his dick, I was asking myself what the fuck was going on with the Shonen Jump magazine at the time compared to now. And yes I'm talking about the series before it was moved to a seinen magazine either because of the author's health issues or because it was getting too raunchy. But aside from the male MC most of the fanservice came from female characters so it's still not really the same as GK.
No.3616
I doubt people would be "Offended" by a penis in a seinen manga. It's not like it's touching another penis.
No.3617
>>3615Based, I loved Bastard. It's so funny that every reader I ever met was a woman. Back then I considered the series prime male targeting material (and technically it is, being shounen/seinen), but I feel like dudes like Dark Schneider are more popular among girls and women. He's way too much of a chad to be a relatable MC for the average of male reader lmao
> I was asking myself what the fuck was going on with the Shonen Jump magazine at the time compared to nowI wish we could get it back. I actually prefer series with sex over that weird innocent ecchi that is so popular nowadays where the girls are usually super innocent (and underaged) virgins and the camera assumes the role of the creep by showing their pantsus at every given opportunity even during serious or down-to-earth scenes (looking at you too, Shinkai) or write all girls as devote tradwives. At least Bastard women were wild and could kick ass.
But speaking about raunchy stuff. One of the many reasons for why I consider GK special is that its fans are super chill from what I experienced so far. Maybe it helps that the series is super "problematic" to begin with for featuring soldiers and thematizing patriotism and traditionalism to some degree as well as featuring a ton of big burly masculine men. I think the types of fans that usually start online drama aren't interested in that sort of stuff.
No.3618
>>3617>I wish we could get it back.Same. Just for recent examples we had JJK, which has a degenerate sadistic hedonist who eats people because he's a fat fuck as the main antagonist but the longer the manga gets the less relevant it becomes so he just acts like a grumpy old man most of the time, and MHA was supposed to have mostly adult characters instead of teenagers studying in the same high school. This can't be the same magazine that serialized Bastard and City Hunter.
>I think the types of fans that usually start online drama aren't interested in that sort of stuff.I think that's it. If these same people got tricked into reading or watching GK because the beginning was a lot less brutal they wouldn't shut up about it, but instead they already know they won't like the story but by reading what it's about.
No.3623
is dogsred any good if you dont care for sports too much? It's the same author so maybe some of you checked it out already and can comment