No.1243
>>1242YESYESYESYESYES my fav ships consist of brothers and i have sexualised irl brothers too in my mind i can't get over male on male incest ITS LITERALLY PERFECTION it's what every guy is supposed to do!!!!!!!!!!!!! ok sperg over
No.1244
Yes brothers should fuck each other and dads should fuck their sons, that's how things are supposed to be
No.1246
>>1243> i have sexualised irl brothers too in my mindtruly rotten
No.1247
>>1242Yes but why is this on /ffs/ and not /bl/ or /ex/? /ffs/ is essentially for drama
No.1251
incest is my absolute favorite trope. i don't know why.
No.1253
>>1243>i have sexualised irl brothers tooDoing God's work, anon.
No.1254
>>1253that's going too far
No.1255
For me the reason why incest is so endearing is because of how pure brotherly love between brothers can turn into lust and unclean desire.
No.1257
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I used to look up germancest while listening to this song
No.1259
>>1245Oh man, this takes me back. When I used to be an enstarrie I had to hide the fact that I shipped reritsu
and rinhii from my twitter mutuals. Good to see that you guys are still eating well.
No.1261
>>1243>real incestThat's a nope for me sister
No.1262
>>1258this is like the best of the best with incest
No.1263
Father/Son>>Brothers>>>Uncle/Nephew
Too bad actual good father/son romance is hard to find and every fic I find on AO3 is some variation of ABO or tranny variant
No.1264
>>1263uncle/nephew sounds boring, too far apart
No.1265
>>1263>father/son if you don't mind shonen, megumi x toji (his dad) has a small following. there are a few doujins on mrm.
No.1267
>>1265Actually that what was I was talking about. There are very few fics that aren't ABO or give megumi a vagina.
No.1269
I'd love a good father/son romance, especially one that leans on the forbidden feeling and eggs on the latent sexual tension and attraction.
Any good recommendation?
No.1270
>>1264I think I've seen a few one, where the uncle corrupts the nephew and has to worry about his brother.
Nephew/Uncle is just trash though. And so is cousin/cousin
Father/son is just the best, though I cannot decide who I prefer to top.
No.1272
>>1242I really want to like this game but the translation is so bad. It's stilted and awkward, not to mention full of grammatical errors.
No.1274
>>1273The Monster of Memory: Destiny
No.1292
Sometimes I think about that anon in an old confession thread on LC who said her bf confessed to her that he and his brother jerked each other off at some point, I wish I could find that post again.
No.1734
>>1268I sincerely feel like they dropped the ball with these guys, I don't get almost any twincest vibe from them, they're just cool, positive soccer bros, and they're not very pretty either. I like them, but their shippers run on nothing, even the shotas get some fanservice from time to time.
No.1757
>>1756I don't care what moralfags were saying about these two back in the day, they were fucking AND THEY WERE FUCKING RAW!
Best twincest, a classic. Good taste nona.
No.1763
There's a pair of hot gay young twins at my workplace. They sometimes hang over each other in a very close bro-y way. They also have a very good friend.
I think of them having hot gay twin sex and hot gay twincest threesomes all the time. They're so cute, I hope each one finds his mister right irl, but in my head? Man, they're so hot.
No.1768
>>1763I understand what you're going through! I used to ship and pair up my cousins at weekly family gatherings, I have a big family and it's mostly male cousins and they always act suspect around each other so it was really fitting to ship them make scenarios in my head! No twins in my unfortunately, that would've been spicy.
No.1769
>>1763I ship my fudanshi boyfriend with his brother (he knows about it) i've wrote a bunch fanfictions and have done art. I used to ship some brothers from my middle school too
No.1770
>>1769your nigel sounds fucking based
No.1771
>>1758Impeccable taste anonimette.
No.1780
>>1774i fucking love selfcest so much
No.1781
It's one of my favorite things in BL. So much so that sometimes I forget that it's actually repulsive for most people.
No.1782
>>1781What is the appeal for you? Is it the drama?
No.1868
Nonnas I am reviving this thread to talk about how guilty I feel.
I really got into a popular series, and for the first time I've acquired the taste for an incestuous pairing that people in the west will kill you for liking. How do you try to search for things like fic about the taboo pairing you like when people clog up AO3 with shit like "fake fics" where it looks like it'll actually be something of the pairing but instead it's an essay about how nasty you are and that you should kys if you like it? I've been trying to mill around the foreign fandom side for this ship, as they seem calmer, but of course I can't read what they say and I'd like some other fujos to talk about it with.
No.1869
>>1868I feel like more people could help if you namedropped the pairing you like, give you good authors and blogs and whatnot.
I'm a total hypocrite for saying this since I'm too shy to talk about some of my ships and interests on here, buuuuut… No.1870
>>1868>people clog up AO3 with shit like "fake fics" where it looks like it'll actually be something of the pairing but instead it's an essay about how nasty you are and that you should kys if you like it?That's wild. Report them at the very least.
I'm with
>>1869, namedrop the ship or fandom and maybe somebody can point you in the right direction. My issue with incest has always just been the potential for deformed/retarded babies so it's funny to me that m/m incest gets so much shit because for the longest time I thought that WAS the only issue.
No.1871
>>1869I feel you on that. People on here seem so friendly, but I'm a bit embarassed about sharing my interests and ships despite anonymity.
>>1870The fandom is One Piece, yeah, I know, it's kinda ????. I have, and they do get deleted, but it just makes me feel like a bit of a monster, whenever I see those. I'm someone who's always followed by just ignoring things I disliked, all the modern stuff I've seen about fictional morality makes me feel a bit stomach-churned.
No.1876
Twincest, older uke, or younger uke?
I like codependent twincest or older brother giving into a younger sibling because he'll do anything for his little bro.
No.1886
>>1876Older ukes, def. I enjoy when the relationship is one-sided a lot, as well. Like, the older just thinks the younger is simply really affectionate early on and doesn't realize his behavior is actually super possessive/obsessive until it reaches a fever-pitch later. It's fun in either the "big bro/dad/etc! i love you! pls marry me!" silly way or when darker and straight-up dangerous for the older one.
No.1887
>>1886based on all counts. I love eager younger semes
No.1892
>>1876Older uke has a certain charm, especially with father/son. Though Father topping is also good. A lot of guil inthere.
No.1893
>>1876I can't express how happy I am that there are other nonnas who also like older ukes. Most of the brother/brother (or twin/twin) BLs I've read have younger ones, or the uke and seme are the same age.
>I like codependent twincest or older brother giving into a younger sibling because he'll do anything for his little bro.I also like that dynamic. For some reason it feels really refreshing, probably because in most media brothers are portrayed in ways that makes it seem as if they're just simply friends living together without any complex relationship.
I've seen a lot of older brother characters who bully/annoy/mistreat the younger one for no reason, I only know of 2 - 3 older sibling characters who treat well the younger.
>>1886>Like, the older just thinks the younger is simply really affectionate early on and doesn't realize his behavior is actually super possessive/obsessive until it reaches a fever-pitch later. >It's fun in either the "big bro/dad/etc! i love you! pls marry me!" silly way or when darker and straight-up dangerous for the older one.Extremely good taste nonna.
No.1894
>>1876honestly i like both
i enjoy occasional switching
No.1981
Best incest ship in anime/manga?
No.1983
>>1981Germancest forever and ever!!!!!!!! >Q<
No.2449
What have you been up to, nonnas? Any new ships? The manga I'm reading is setting up for a secret twin reveal so I'm excited for that. Aside from that, I've been machine translating original fic on pixiv. Also is it just me or has there been very few incest manga released these days?
No.2450
>>2449love how this is basically an incest shipper check-in, nonna. my current fandom doesn’t have a lot of familial pairs, so i’ve been settling for pseudo-incestuous master-protege type ships, kek. feels very vanilla and honestly, i’m kinda bored. i might as well start making brother/brother ocs at this point.
i feel like there hasn’t been a lot of good incest potential media in a while, tbh. everyone was chill with hotd a while back, but that was het incest and it really didn’t have any lasting impact on the incest shipping “economy,” so to speak.
No.2461
>>2449I've been spreading propaganda of my OTP through MRM, Nhentai/Sadpanda by translating and scanning doujins of them which is a niche incest ship from a very niche game.
So far it's actually been working.
No.2480
>>2461You can post the characters just not shota hentai.
Anyway this isn't my main Mob ship but I do like them especially with protective Ritsu!
>>2461Woah incredible nonna! Propaganda machine.
No.2482
>>2461uber based, queen
keep on doing goddess' work
No.2485
>>2481>SerimobWhat kind of a dynamic do you like between them?
No.2486
>>2483Oh I love reimob too, again the dynamics can go so many ways. Bad man Reigen and unassuming Shige, pushy Shige and guilty Reigen, mutual pining, though my favorite has got to be ageswap. There's something so haunting about an adult Shigeo who, with age, has all the power in the relationship and tries to push Arataka away, warns him to not get close, and then becomes the monster of his own self fulfilling prophecy when he falls in love with the only bit of light in his otherwise isolated life.
older!younger brother Ritsu is so cute, I'm sure he dreams of reliving the days when they were children but with his current knowledge of how lucky he was to see his brother even more innocent than he is now. And no he wouldn't hurt Shigeo, but he's so possessive and delusional that he would certainly find ways to justify severely restricting his life so that he relies on him and him alone. One of my favorite fics has a line that still sticks with me to this day, of Ritsu emerging from a spirit-induced hallucination where he and Shigeo were in a happy, consensual, romantic and sexual relationship only for that veneer to crumble and he returns to real life where he can no longer exist with just being platonic, and he crumples at Shigeo's feet and in the most pitiful display begs him 'please try, just try' because Shigeo is too kind to turn even Ritsu's unnatural advances down even though he can never be able to reciprocate. That kindness of his kills.
>>2485My favorite is Serizawa not really changing whatsoever and just latching onto Shigeo as his new savior instead of Touichirou. Playing the role that he thinks Shigeo wants him to but being utterly beholden to him and caring very little for his life outside of him. I like Serizawa being so emotionally stunted from his time as a NEET that he can't connect with other people his age so he gravitates towards Shige who is so naive and accepting of him. I like him nonconning Mob but I'm also really into him wanting Mob to top him since he's a submissive slut at heart. Mob being too trusting and Serizawa guilting him into a relationship by making him feel responsible for him. Also the size difference is so hot, especially if Serizawa is a little chubby. But I'm the type where the more fucked up it is the more I like it.
No.2490
>>2486Gasp a fellow mob psycho fan. Post links to best fics.
No.2494
>>2493Holy shit your taste is fucking SUPERB, you have no idea how excited I am to scour for you. I'm also soso happy to meet another SeriMob fan- we are so rare! I really want to write a SeriMob fic where NEET Serizawa kidnaps Shigeo and implants a device inside of him that will kill Serizawa if he attempts to use his powers to escape, using his pacifism against him. I just want him so gross and drooling over his perfect untouched body. Shigeo deserves to be objectified no matter by who. I also really like Tou/Seri/Mob where Touchirou wins and collects Shigeo as his prize and Serizawa has to struggle with potential insubordination and extreme jealousy.
Give me a couple hours to compile.
No.2496
>>2495WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS PICTURE, DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE god just look how BIG he is, towering over him, his frame almost completely obfuscating Shigeo. Ugh just think about how scared shy, introverted Shige would be finding himself in this tiny, cramped, moldy den with a man twice his age and size kissing his feet telling him how much he loves him and how long he's waited for this and how happy they'll be together and Shigeo has absolutely no clue who he is. (kidnapping may be my biggest kink (speaking of, I just discovered this 5 minutes ago and am losing my motherfucking mind
https://archiveofourown.org/works/50017852/chapters/126294520 ))
No.2497
>>2496I feel like this comic is more in line with Seri's character than Reigen's, but it's still reallyyy hot so I forgive it. Damn, he's so delusional. Poor Mob, cry more.
Also I'm sorry! I don't have the source, somebody posted it somewhere. I've only just recently started titling the things I save in my folders with creators names. A little too late, but, at least now I can find things.
No.2498
>>2479>Otherwise post your favorite yandere incest and sell me on why I should ship them.If you like RitMob, you might also like YoriMichi/MichiYori from Demon Slayer. There's some shared tropes in common (older bro is more like a younger bro and vice versa, one of them is born the most OP character in the series like Mob and the other one has an inferiority complex over it, except it's the younger bro who's talented and the older bro who's resentful) but warning that these are endgame characters whose story isn't fully in the anime yet and one of them is already dead before the story starts, since the other is, well, an immortal demon. If you care about spoilers for this series don't read below, but
>Obsessed with each other in different ways>Older bro ditched his arranged marriage wife and kids to chase after younger bro, and canonically doesn't even remember their faces after 400 years, only his bro's>Older bro became a demon to try and surpass younger bro, who refused to kill him so he got kicked out of the demon slayer organization >Lots of fic where the younger bro goes yandere and tries to turn demon bro back into a human, but either or both of them can be made yandere very easily>Demon guy canonically ate his bro after he died>Demon bro thinks OP bro hated him all his life but OP bro only ever loved himThat's just me trying to summarize the main parts but there's a lot more going on. This ship has me obsessed
No.2499
>>2498It's a shame I hate the demon slayer art style, because that ship sounds hot as hell
No.2500
>>2499Personally I love the art style so it's a plus for me, but you can probably still look at fanart.
No.2515
>>2461Thank you for the TK food nonna ehehe
No.2519
>>2450> i might as well start making brother/brother ocs at this point.You should do it anyways. I have five pairs of brothers
and one pair of sisters whose stories I've been working on and off for the past couple of years. I'll probably never finish them but it's been pretty fun torturing my OC's with incestous rape.
No.2556
>>1242I love it, but only certain dynamics and because underage is gross, dadcon and brocon ships gotta be over 18 across the board.
The dad has to bottom for dadcon, but not in a whimpering submissive mess way (ew) like most JP fujos seem to like. He has got to be a power bottom. He’s gotta show his boy the ropes! Bonus points if he has a little bit of self-hate over being such a creepy old man for wanting to fuck his son too. Though I don’t like these ships being purely skeevy horny shit. I like when there’s parallels to, for example, the son’s character arc having something to do with struggling to accept his culture or upbringing, so falling in love with his dad is a twisted, primal way of giving into his nature and recognizing his origins.
As for brocon, love when they’re obsessed with each other in their different fucked up ways that they themselves don’t even recognize. Jealousy, manipulation, etc. Getting mad when the other has a girlfriend, starting fights, all that good stuff.
No.2557
>>2556>underage is grossyou’re entitled to your opinion and all, but posting this in the incest thread of a board that regularly complains about not being able to post lewd shota anymore is like throwing a stone from your glass house. sorry.
No.2558
>>2557NTA but I like that we have people with different opinions on things, keeps the site from becoming an echo chamber.
Personally like dad/son with sub dad who's horrified and ashamed his son is coming onto him. Which sounds like the exact opposite of what that anon prefers lol.
No.2559
>>2556>>2558>horrified and ashamedI feel like dad/son whole appeal is that to me, which i think many writers fail to portray (for shame).
Like the shame of your son coming into you combined with a sense of guilt because the dad want the same thing. A father is supposed to love his son unconditionally, so what happens when you also mix romantic love into it?
I feel like not many writers try to portray it.
As for father topping/bottom. I think I'd like to see more fathers top.A lot of incest fics have it bottom not sure why.
No.2560
>>2558you’re definitely right, and i agree (especially when it comes to our shit-you-like/shit-you-hate threads, which are so diverse). i just felt like poking fun at the irony a little bit.
>>2559this is so real. and it applies to all incest for me, not just dad/son. i can’t stand it when fics end up portraying the incest ship exactly as a normal couple, with absolutely no introspection or fear of backlash whatsoever. and it’s even worse when the fic has everyone around the main couple being fine with it as well. if someone is going to openly fuck their dad or brother, then i expect them to burn a few bridges along the way, y’know? bonus points for terrible if there’s a “coming out” as an incestuous couple scene, which just makes me cringe.
>a lot of incest fics have it bottom not sure why.might be a power dynamic thing? i think there definitely are people who want to explore incestuous dynamics while avoiding anything that reminds them of irl abuse, so having the son be the aggressor and the dad bottoming makes it a bit more palatable to them. idk. that’s my theory anyways.
No.2561
>>2560Yes, yes, yes! Holy cow the appeal of the ship is the taboo nature, if both parties are chill with it and jump into a relationship with no repercussions or hesitations it takes me right out of it.
No.2562
>>2557If someone is pissy that I think underage is gross then that’s her problem. I don’t see why I can’t post about my own opinions on a thread that’s asking for opinions.
>>2559I wish I knew where you were finding these bottom dads, because I’m mostly finding top dads unfortunately! Like
>>2560 I also love when shame and guilt is mixed in. I hate when they act like a normal couple. They never will be! Either they burn trying to keep it up or it ruins their relationship forever or I don’t wanna read it . You’ve gotta wonder what’s going on with people who write those cringy coming out scenes and accepting environments lol. Probably young or autistic.
No.2563
>>2560>>2562Oh sorry anons, I was thinking in term of manga. I think the few father/son incest stuff I've seen in anime and manga always has the son topping.
I'm not sure why, I think may be more "acceptable" for the son to do it or either to imagine?
I think because seme/uke are very much about chaser/being chased, so it's easier to imagine the son doing the chase and the father resisting than it is the father (who is normally older and therefor stronger).
I do like the son being the chaser and also the bottom, not gonna lie (Some Tojigumi fics like
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29444004)
Though in fics I usually tend to see the most depraved and badly written shit in the the father/son tag on AO3, usually smutfics with a focus on pissing and diaper for some reason. A lot of them don't really know how to handle the subtitle of the whole forbidden angle.
> Either they burn trying to keep it up or it ruins their relationship forever or I don’t wanna read it . Agree. I especially love the whole self reflection how there is "No coming back from it" because how do you coming back from fucking your son? It just damages you as a father forever and you are going to see each other as sexual objects. Then the slow build up from "I'm going absolutely depraved shit with my son" to "fuck the world our love is real build up is just delicious", but so few writers bother.
No.2564
>>2563Oh, I can definitely make an exception for when the son is the chaser and also the bottom. It gets toxic and interesting when it's one-sided on the son's part, but the father clearly has more power, so why wouldn't the father be pushing him off or stopping him… (the self-hate and guilt angle like always!)
> but so few writers bother.Yeah. Most of the fics for pairings I like are really short, so there's never the slow-burn a dynamic like this needs. I understand not wanting to spend a lot of time on something only a few people will read and enjoy.
> I usually tend to see the most depraved and badly written shit in the the father/son tag on AO3Honestly, I attribute this mostly to male writers. I noticed men are always behind the other depraved fetish fics that always shoehorn incest into there just because, with the characters so OOC, they might as well be plugging their names into a pre-written template to make them act out their favorite godless pornos.
No.2565
>>2564Reminds me of my favorite incest I read was slow burn "Monster of memory". Because it was a VN it felt like was able to slowly build the incest twist and because it was two brothers it had less resistance from the characters.
Speaking of brothers, older/younger and younger/older feel both equally popular? I think in general there is less resistance and less power imbalance between two brothers. Thought I think I still see more younger seme? Something about younger characters being the seme in incest seem more prevalent to me, at least in pure BL. Though no idea why people even bother to make brothers non blood related.
I guess dad/son is probably the hardest for many people because even among incest fans is considered forbidden. So you are mostly left with a few writers looking for a quick fap or whatever which fair I guess.
But dang, I love a good father/son slow psychological build up. The amount of slow, subtle lust, the ashamed gaze culminating in a hard fuck in which they give up to all their incestuous lust.
No.2571
I recently made some incestuous OCs, but it made me wonder: do people feel it's cheap or a cop out if the incest pair have a mythical/old god theme? Especially with a meta context that some characters will shrug it off like "well, gods are a bit fucked like that I guess". I didn't set off to do anything deviant just folksy, but now I think about it it's awfully convenient and someone might think it's a deliberate attempt to "play it safe". Funny that I now anticipate that but some of my fav ships got accused of being "safe incest" or "incest repellent" in the last year so I feel like there
are some brats trying to police if your incest is kosher or not. On the other hand, people might turn their nose up at even the mildest inclusion so the ones who would read your ideas are limited to those who want something else out of the tags.
>>2563I can't remember being into any son/father ships but with student/teacher ships the appeal for me is the idea of overtaking the older person. They used to be small, weak, and dependent, but now they're seizing control of the relationship, whether it's by dub/noncon or generally pushing their desires in daily activities. As a kink I definitely think about size and physical power difference, it's basic as shit but thinking the younger one grew up
bigger sets my brain off. Some part of the raising aspect in there too, that the larger/stronger kid is somehow their own fault they're now dealing with. Danmei really has you covered on that, pic related.
No.2572
>>2571>I recently made some incestuous OCs, but it made me wonder: do people feel it's cheap or a cop out if the incest pair have a mythical/old god theme? Especially with a meta context that some characters will shrug it off like "well, gods are a bit fucked like that I guess". I didn't set off to do anything deviant just folksy, but now I think about it it's awfully convenient and someone might think it's a deliberate attempt to "play it safe". Funny that I now anticipate that but some of my fav ships got accused of being "safe incest" or "incest repellent" in the last year so I feel like there are some brats trying to police if your incest is kosher or not. On the other hand, people might turn their nose up at even the mildest inclusion so the ones who would read your ideas are limited to those who want something else out of the tags.At least for me, mythical incest doesn't' feel as incest. I'm not sure why, I think part of it is that with gods I guess it's hard to care if the share the same dna or not?
No.2573
>>2572ditto. i don’t want to discourage anyone from making oc incest content, because i always want to see more of it in the world, but i just don’t vibe with it in mythology as hard. the same feeling of taboo just isn’t there. maybe because it sort of takes the humanity out of it? idk.
for me, the shame and guilt and taboo is so inherent to my enjoyment of incest that having incest be even slightly accepted or trivialized in the setting totally ruins it for me. royalty for whom inbreeding is expected? don’t care for it. divine beings that aren’t bound by human customs? meh. anything less than “if anyone finds out, our lives are over” levels of secrecy and guilt just doesn’t hit the same.
No.2574
>>2573Yeah I think with gods and shit the "human" elements is missing. The most obvious example is Greek gods, who would fuck anything, who rape people and shapeshift to animals. At that point incest doesn't feel like a big deal and it's not like they actually have DNA.
Royalty works for me in the context of "the king is fucking his son" but not too much "I'm marrying my cousin/uncle of the opposite sex to keep the bloodline pure" because no one cares.
They "key" to incest is the forbidden aspect, the hidden lust and shame that brings it and the mix of familiar love with romantic love.
No.2575
>>2574>because no one caresUnless they're Fire Emblem "fans".
No.2577
>>2572>>2573Yeah, this is what I was thinking when I asked. I prefer non-human incest because the feel is about being primal or instinctive and indulgent and that's what I'm into rather than the societal taboo. Easy example would be something like vampire siblings, they're already an affront to human morals so the incest isn't surprising, but it does represent them being hedonistic because they're so driven to pursue pleasure they'll start going at one another. It's a completely different flavor so I would highlight the vampire tag way before the incest so people know what they're getting.
No.2592
Does anyone else have fave or preferred terms of address? I think the varying levels of formality and the nuances you can have in relationship are neat.
>Oniichan
>Nii-san
?Onii-sama
>Ani-ue
>Otou-sama
>Oyaji
>Plain name
>Nickname
etc
Doesn't have to be Japanese either, feel free to mention other language terms. (Though when it comes to Chinese I'm more of a shizun kink person and that only pseudo-applies to this thread, I did read at least one cnovel where the shizun-fucking relationship was socially considered incest but it seems to vary by author)
No.2593
>>2592For brothers, niichan and niisan reigns supreme. Aniki sounds a bit too funny, but I guess it can work sometimes.
For dadson, it has to be oyaji during day to day conversations and otousan or papa during sex. I'm just autistic like that. Bonus if the dad claps back with a 'kuso gaki' or something.
Plain names with no honorifics sound too distant for me.
No.2594
>>2592>>2593Nii san is fine fo rme but leaving otousan untl is cringe. Papa also makes me think of toddler, I just like dad.
No.2595
>>2592Depends heavily on the specific character involved, but I usually like "father" or "old man." Usually I like the son to dominate sk I want him to be a bit teasing and mean. Otou-san or Oyaji are OK for Japanese works.
No.2596
>>2594>>2595>Papa also makes me think of toddlerI agree, this would be an instant boner killer on the same level as 'daddy' if I ever ran into it
>old manI like this too for the same reasons.
After getting into a few historical setting ships, I definitely have a huge thing for 'ani-ue'. 'onii-sama' makes me cringe, but something about historical context and formal hierarchy involved makes it hot. You usually see it for like, brothers who are samurai or other noblemen, and often you'll get other drama such as being raised apart due to rules about being strict with first-born sons. Something about the combination of formal address/respect with lack of actual closeness scratches something for me.
You get the same drama with the parent relationships too but I can't really take 'chichi-ue' seriously, it sounds too silly.
No.2597
>>2593I'd use aniki for HiyoRona because it shows the dumb reverence with which Hideo treats his older brother. He's a grown man but he still admires his bro like a hero.
>>2596Aniue is very good for strained exclamations and needy whining. Chichiue I've never heard sound hot coming from someone referring to another, but it's different if the father figure is asserting that it's his title. It's like going "you will treat me intimately but with respect". Historical/hierarchical setting adds more flavor to the power dynamic, it's taboo but they don't have a choice when someone of higher status forces them. The shame an older relative would go through if their own child had the upper hand on them to that degree!
Also there's always so many uncles of ill repute in historical settings like court dramas, and copious amounts of alcohol. There should be more of that but I feel like it's veering on "safe" again. No.2598
>>2597>UnclesSomehow I made it this long in the thread without remembering that this is my favorite flavor of m/m incest. (And I don't have the same cringe response to 'oji-ue' as 'chichi-ue' either)
>spoilerYep, that's what they're good for. Seedy alcoholic noble uncles!
>Aniue is very good for strained exclamations and needy whiningNonna, you understand! I also like it coldly-spoken when discussing being enemies by circusmstance of war or just good old fashioned trying to murder each other, as samurai love to do. (I only watched one drama but there was so much of cousins, siblings, uncles, in-laws, etc plotting against each other and sometimes casually lamenting it but in like a 'whoops, what can you do' way)
No.2599
>>2598Uncles are very meh to me. Not sure why though, unless they are fucking and trying to keep it a secret from the dad or something.
No.2601
>>2600>even though I swear it wasn't as debated before.I also remember "brocon" type characters being far less debated. I was into any at the time but as an outsider it seemed like since nobody in the narrative matched the intensity of the feelings the brother had for the other brother (mutual or not), the most popular ship for that usually character was their brother. Simple as.
No.2614
>>2571>I recently made some incestuous OCs, but it made me wonder: do people feel it's cheap or a cop out if the incest pair have a mythical/old god theme?It depends, is the presence of taboo still there in the setting or is it normalized?
>As a kink I definitely think about size and physical power difference, it's basic as shit but thinking the younger one grew up bigger sets my brain offNot incest, but a childhood friend returning after a long absence only now they're hot is a similar kink of mine, especially if they're now much bigger than the MC.
>>2573>for me, the shame and guilt and taboo is so inherent to my enjoyment of incest that having incest be even slightly accepted or trivialized in the setting totally ruins it for meBasically this. If the incest is socially accepted it's no longer different from any other pairing.
>>2577>I prefer non-human incest because the feel is about being primal or instinctive and indulgent and that's what I'm into rather than the societal tabooThis is how I feel about non-con. I want the non-human to come from a background where using people when the urge arises is considered perfectly normal and the receiver should accept it.
>>2600Gay sex itself has been a taboo and I have always considered it an extension of this in fiction. This doesn't apply IRL, but if you're indulging in something that's looked down on, why limit it?
No.2652
>>2651Spardacest is patrician taste.
No.2713
>>2709normally i'd say it's a cop-out. imo the entire appeal of this trope lies in the taboo aspect of two blood-relatives fucking. step-incest is just not as fucked up as actual incest to me.
your picrel does have the same appeal as blood-related incest though. maybe it's because dhurke is the closest thing apollo's ever had to a real father. but something like nahyuta/apollo doesn't feel like incest at all, it just feels like they're regular childhood friends.
No.2716
>>2709I don't see step-sibling stuff as incest at all so I don't have a specific opinion on it. I'd say both are a cop-out.
I hate AA6 for what it did to Apollo's character and backstory so I hate the pic you posted kek, I'm sorry anon. No.2718
>>2717I can't read the title on the image you posted nona, it is a BL? the bearded redhead guy is cute
No.2719
>>2718No, but there is some subtext Madou no Keifu
No.2755
>>2592I have an elaborate daydream world involving a fathercon son (the uke) who addresses his father (the seme) as Otou-sama. Something about the formality of the title mixed with the forbidden desire for his father is just perfect for my tastes.
No.2815
There is never enough Uke Dad! I want more pathetic fathers getting pressured by their sons! Does anyone know any good series with this dynamic?
No.2817
>>2815Squall/Laguna (FF8) used to be pretty good for this, but it's been yeeeeeeears since I've checked in on it. It was extra exquisite because Laguna knows he's Squall's dad but Squall (usually) does not.
No.3093
>>2651Spardacest is peak. That was one of my first exposures to twincest.
I absolutely love twincest, identical or not
although I also think identical twins are admittedly kinda spicier… Bonus points if they were forcibly separated and have complicated and angsty feelings towards each other that inevitably keeps them pining for each other. Nowadays my favorite twincest ship is tennriku from idolish7. They’re fraternal twins, but in anime logic that just means their appearance is mirrored and they have adjacent color schemes. I really like when they complement each other like this.
No.3174
>>3093 God, TennRiku really is the peak of brocon to me. They're clearly only attacted to each other and have been made for each other ever since theyre shared space in the belly.
No.3205
>>3174I know, right? They’re literally meant for each other. I love that Riku acts like such a spoiled younger brother but Tenn can’t stop worrying about him so he kinda feeds into their codependency because he feels guilty about the time they spent separated as kids. Their brocon dynamic is just everything to me. I can’t stop listening to Incomplete Ruler because their voices singing in harmony together is so beautiful, like they’re yearning for each other
>>3127I didn’t play I-chu for very long but damn, these boys are really cute. I should’ve given this game a chance
No.3224
God incest is one of the best tropes. I heavily prefer brother/brother ships, you can never go wrong with brocon, it can be twisted into so many delicious variants. Personally one of my favorite tropes is when their parents are neglectful and they're forced to rely on each other and their brotherly love accidentally becomes something more. Or classic abuse, where the older brother constantly takes advantage of the younger brother but the younger brother is too trusting of the older brother/looks up to him too much to accept that he's being hurt. Fatherson isn't bad at all and neither is uncle/nephew but I prefer brocon all the same. Speaking of uncle/nephew, I'm thinking of writing a short fic of an uncle raping his nephew because he was in love with the nephew's father (his brother), and the nephew looks exactly like he did when he was younger.
No.3226
>>3205>I didn’t play I-chu for very long but damn, these boys are really cute. I should’ve given this game a chanceI've been thinking lately I could give the anime a chance. Apparently at some point after I stopped playing the original game was rebooted and the anime is based on that reboot.