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 No.1242[Last 50 Posts]

Thoughts on incest?

Do you like it?

 No.1243

>>1242
YESYESYESYESYES my fav ships consist of brothers and i have sexualised irl brothers too in my mind i can't get over male on male incest ITS LITERALLY PERFECTION it's what every guy is supposed to do!!!!!!!!!!!!! ok sperg over

 No.1244

Yes brothers should fuck each other and dads should fuck their sons, that's how things are supposed to be

 No.1245

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>>1242
God I love incest, I just wish it was more common in media. I've been obsessing over pic related for months now, they have such a good dynamic of an overprotective blatantly brocon older brother x tsundere younger brother. Shame that you can't mention them around like 90% of the fanbase though.

 No.1246

>>1243
> i have sexualised irl brothers too in my mind
truly rotten

 No.1247

>>1242
Yes but why is this on /ffs/ and not /bl/ or /ex/? /ffs/ is essentially for drama

 No.1250

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>incest
Yes.

 No.1251

incest is my absolute favorite trope. i don't know why.

 No.1253

>>1243
>i have sexualised irl brothers too
Doing God's work, anon.

 No.1254

>>1253
that's going too far

 No.1255

For me the reason why incest is so endearing is because of how pure brotherly love between brothers can turn into lust and unclean desire.

 No.1256

>>1255
yessssss i love it

 No.1257

Embedding error.
I used to look up germancest while listening to this song

 No.1258

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regular incest is great an all but have you considered twincest?

 No.1259

>>1245
Oh man, this takes me back. When I used to be an enstarrie I had to hide the fact that I shipped reritsu
and rinhii from my twitter mutuals. Good to see that you guys are still eating well.

 No.1261

>>1243
>real incest
That's a nope for me sister

 No.1262

>>1258
this is like the best of the best with incest

 No.1263

Father/Son>>Brothers>>>Uncle/Nephew

Too bad actual good father/son romance is hard to find and every fic I find on AO3 is some variation of ABO or tranny variant

 No.1264

>>1263
uncle/nephew sounds boring, too far apart

 No.1265

>>1263
>father/son
if you don't mind shonen, megumi x toji (his dad) has a small following. there are a few doujins on mrm.

 No.1267

>>1265
Actually that what was I was talking about. There are very few fics that aren't ABO or give megumi a vagina.

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>>1258
Twincest is the best. It's the only kind of incest where the familial relationship is an actual turn on for me, I don't mind other incest ships but I wont' like them solely on the basis of them being incest. I especially like it when they're unhealthily codependent but have no desire whatsoever to become more of their own person. Bonus points if they are in fact terrified by the idea of growing apart in any way.

 No.1269

I'd love a good father/son romance, especially one that leans on the forbidden feeling and eggs on the latent sexual tension and attraction.

Any good recommendation?

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>>1264
I think I've seen a few one, where the uncle corrupts the nephew and has to worry about his brother.

Nephew/Uncle is just trash though. And so is cousin/cousin

Father/son is just the best, though I cannot decide who I prefer to top.

 No.1272

>>1242
I really want to like this game but the translation is so bad. It's stilted and awkward, not to mention full of grammatical errors.

 No.1273

>>1272
what is the game?

 No.1274

>>1273
The Monster of Memory: Destiny

 No.1292

Sometimes I think about that anon in an old confession thread on LC who said her bf confessed to her that he and his brother jerked each other off at some point, I wish I could find that post again.

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I am neutral about brothers, so I might enjoy it a lot if the chemistry is great. Parents/kid and stuff isn't my cup of tea but I wouldn't drop a series because of it, I am always curious to see if a weird concept might work for me if the story and characters are good.
I agree that there should be more canon stuff, even anime are flooded with brother/imouto pandering but you rarely see brother gaycest or anything even in manga.

 No.1677

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I like it
When the age gap is small I usually prefer the older or at least the bigger relative to top, and if it's big enough then I prefer the younger one to top
But it's not a hard rule

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>>1258
Neil x Lyle from Gundam 00 was kinda popular a little over a decade ago. I follow an artist that's been shipping it from the beginning and still going to this day.

 No.1734

>>1268
I sincerely feel like they dropped the ball with these guys, I don't get almost any twincest vibe from them, they're just cool, positive soccer bros, and they're not very pretty either. I like them, but their shippers run on nothing, even the shotas get some fanservice from time to time.

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Revisiting this thread again makes me wonder, what type of incest do fujononas here like? What I mean is like siblings, twins, uncles, father x son and so on.
And who do you like topping mostly? I enjoy when younger family memeber is horny for the older one and especially a son who is horny for his father!
Here's what I'm reading currently, twins x older brother. Title: uchi wa futago de teippai.

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>>1755
Brothers!!! or Twins!! this my favorite dynamic!!

 No.1757

>>1756
I don't care what moralfags were saying about these two back in the day, they were fucking AND THEY WERE FUCKING RAW!
Best twincest, a classic. Good taste nona.

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>>1757
my all time OTP is germancest after all and nothing will top that

 No.1763

There's a pair of hot gay young twins at my workplace. They sometimes hang over each other in a very close bro-y way. They also have a very good friend.

I think of them having hot gay twin sex and hot gay twincest threesomes all the time. They're so cute, I hope each one finds his mister right irl, but in my head? Man, they're so hot.

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 No.1765

>>1763
calm down haruhi

 No.1767

>>1763
Good for you

 No.1768

>>1763
I understand what you're going through! I used to ship and pair up my cousins at weekly family gatherings, I have a big family and it's mostly male cousins and they always act suspect around each other so it was really fitting to ship them make scenarios in my head! No twins in my unfortunately, that would've been spicy.

 No.1769

>>1763
I ship my fudanshi boyfriend with his brother (he knows about it) i've wrote a bunch fanfictions and have done art. I used to ship some brothers from my middle school too

 No.1770

>>1769
your nigel sounds fucking based

 No.1771

>>1758
Impeccable taste anonimette.

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>>1755
Self-cest. There is nothing more titillating than exact replicas mutually exchanging pleasure.

 No.1780

>>1774
i fucking love selfcest so much

 No.1781

It's one of my favorite things in BL. So much so that sometimes I forget that it's actually repulsive for most people.

 No.1782

>>1781
What is the appeal for you? Is it the drama?

 No.1868

Nonnas I am reviving this thread to talk about how guilty I feel.

I really got into a popular series, and for the first time I've acquired the taste for an incestuous pairing that people in the west will kill you for liking. How do you try to search for things like fic about the taboo pairing you like when people clog up AO3 with shit like "fake fics" where it looks like it'll actually be something of the pairing but instead it's an essay about how nasty you are and that you should kys if you like it? I've been trying to mill around the foreign fandom side for this ship, as they seem calmer, but of course I can't read what they say and I'd like some other fujos to talk about it with.

 No.1869

>>1868
I feel like more people could help if you namedropped the pairing you like, give you good authors and blogs and whatnot.
I'm a total hypocrite for saying this since I'm too shy to talk about some of my ships and interests on here, buuuuut…

 No.1870

>>1868
>people clog up AO3 with shit like "fake fics" where it looks like it'll actually be something of the pairing but instead it's an essay about how nasty you are and that you should kys if you like it?
That's wild. Report them at the very least.

I'm with >>1869, namedrop the ship or fandom and maybe somebody can point you in the right direction. My issue with incest has always just been the potential for deformed/retarded babies so it's funny to me that m/m incest gets so much shit because for the longest time I thought that WAS the only issue.

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>>1869
I feel you on that. People on here seem so friendly, but I'm a bit embarassed about sharing my interests and ships despite anonymity.
>>1870
The fandom is One Piece, yeah, I know, it's kinda ????. I have, and they do get deleted, but it just makes me feel like a bit of a monster, whenever I see those. I'm someone who's always followed by just ignoring things I disliked, all the modern stuff I've seen about fictional morality makes me feel a bit stomach-churned.

 No.1872

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>>1871
Those AO3 writers are sadder than you are. They're mostly children too. If not, they're maladjusted adults. There will be assholes no matter where you go in person and online so unfortunately reporting is the only option. Personally, fandom morality now isn't too bad and not worth worrying over. Years ago people got very heated over gay ships and in the future the same type of people will be complaining about some other new social issue. In Japan, Korea, etc. there's people on forums arguing over the same shit.

 No.1876

Twincest, older uke, or younger uke?

I like codependent twincest or older brother giving into a younger sibling because he'll do anything for his little bro.

 No.1886

>>1876
Older ukes, def. I enjoy when the relationship is one-sided a lot, as well. Like, the older just thinks the younger is simply really affectionate early on and doesn't realize his behavior is actually super possessive/obsessive until it reaches a fever-pitch later. It's fun in either the "big bro/dad/etc! i love you! pls marry me!" silly way or when darker and straight-up dangerous for the older one.

 No.1887

>>1886
based on all counts. I love eager younger semes

 No.1892

>>1876
Older uke has a certain charm, especially with father/son. Though Father topping is also good. A lot of guil inthere.

 No.1893

>>1876
I can't express how happy I am that there are other nonnas who also like older ukes. Most of the brother/brother (or twin/twin) BLs I've read have younger ones, or the uke and seme are the same age.
>I like codependent twincest or older brother giving into a younger sibling because he'll do anything for his little bro.
I also like that dynamic. For some reason it feels really refreshing, probably because in most media brothers are portrayed in ways that makes it seem as if they're just simply friends living together without any complex relationship.
I've seen a lot of older brother characters who bully/annoy/mistreat the younger one for no reason, I only know of 2 - 3 older sibling characters who treat well the younger.
>>1886
>Like, the older just thinks the younger is simply really affectionate early on and doesn't realize his behavior is actually super possessive/obsessive until it reaches a fever-pitch later.
>It's fun in either the "big bro/dad/etc! i love you! pls marry me!" silly way or when darker and straight-up dangerous for the older one.
Extremely good taste nonna.

 No.1894

>>1876
honestly i like both
i enjoy occasional switching

 No.1981

Best incest ship in anime/manga?

 No.1983

>>1981
Germancest forever and ever!!!!!!!! >Q<

 No.1987

>>1981
Got nostalgia for these 2

 No.2449

What have you been up to, nonnas? Any new ships? The manga I'm reading is setting up for a secret twin reveal so I'm excited for that. Aside from that, I've been machine translating original fic on pixiv. Also is it just me or has there been very few incest manga released these days?

 No.2450

>>2449
love how this is basically an incest shipper check-in, nonna. my current fandom doesn’t have a lot of familial pairs, so i’ve been settling for pseudo-incestuous master-protege type ships, kek. feels very vanilla and honestly, i’m kinda bored. i might as well start making brother/brother ocs at this point.

i feel like there hasn’t been a lot of good incest potential media in a while, tbh. everyone was chill with hotd a while back, but that was het incest and it really didn’t have any lasting impact on the incest shipping “economy,” so to speak.

 No.2451

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>>2449
Nothing canon but there's this new music project called Fragaria Memories based on Sanrio and two characters are siblings (My Melody and Kuromi). One of them has a rivalry/inferiority complex thing going on with the other, they're pretty cute.

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>>2449
I've been spreading propaganda of my OTP through MRM, Nhentai/Sadpanda by translating and scanning doujins of them which is a niche incest ship from a very niche game.
So far it's actually been working.

 No.2479

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I don't know if shota is allowed but fuck do I need other fujos to talk about ritmob with.

Otherwise post your favorite yandere incest and sell me on why I should ship them.

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>>2461
You can post the characters just not shota hentai.

Anyway this isn't my main Mob ship but I do like them especially with protective Ritsu!

>>2461
Woah incredible nonna! Propaganda machine.

 No.2481

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>>2480
Pic saved. What's your fav mob ship? Serimob is my personal fav but Shigeo is my bicycle so I love him with everybody (except fluffy TeruMob). And Ritsu's really such a brocon freak. I love him getting jealous and vindictive over how much time he spends with Reigen. Personally I find it hot how he's the younger one. But the great thing about mp100 is how vibrant and complex the characters are so the ships are all very dynamic so I can enjoy a more submissive bottom Ritsu instead of the sweat dripping delirious with possessive, taboo lust Ritsu too.

 No.2482

>>2461
uber based, queen
keep on doing goddess' work

 No.2483

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>>2481
I'm ReiMob trash mainly but I do love a good fic where Ritsu is over protective and jealous of other people interacting with Mob and taking up his time. Agree 100% on the brother complex dynamic, I prefer him as a top developing a unhealthy fixation, only dubcon though since I don't see him as ever intentionally harming Mob.

 No.2485

>>2481
>Serimob
What kind of a dynamic do you like between them?

 No.2486

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>>2483
Oh I love reimob too, again the dynamics can go so many ways. Bad man Reigen and unassuming Shige, pushy Shige and guilty Reigen, mutual pining, though my favorite has got to be ageswap. There's something so haunting about an adult Shigeo who, with age, has all the power in the relationship and tries to push Arataka away, warns him to not get close, and then becomes the monster of his own self fulfilling prophecy when he falls in love with the only bit of light in his otherwise isolated life.

older!younger brother Ritsu is so cute, I'm sure he dreams of reliving the days when they were children but with his current knowledge of how lucky he was to see his brother even more innocent than he is now. And no he wouldn't hurt Shigeo, but he's so possessive and delusional that he would certainly find ways to justify severely restricting his life so that he relies on him and him alone. One of my favorite fics has a line that still sticks with me to this day, of Ritsu emerging from a spirit-induced hallucination where he and Shigeo were in a happy, consensual, romantic and sexual relationship only for that veneer to crumble and he returns to real life where he can no longer exist with just being platonic, and he crumples at Shigeo's feet and in the most pitiful display begs him 'please try, just try' because Shigeo is too kind to turn even Ritsu's unnatural advances down even though he can never be able to reciprocate. That kindness of his kills.

>>2485
My favorite is Serizawa not really changing whatsoever and just latching onto Shigeo as his new savior instead of Touichirou. Playing the role that he thinks Shigeo wants him to but being utterly beholden to him and caring very little for his life outside of him. I like Serizawa being so emotionally stunted from his time as a NEET that he can't connect with other people his age so he gravitates towards Shige who is so naive and accepting of him. I like him nonconning Mob but I'm also really into him wanting Mob to top him since he's a submissive slut at heart. Mob being too trusting and Serizawa guilting him into a relationship by making him feel responsible for him. Also the size difference is so hot, especially if Serizawa is a little chubby. But I'm the type where the more fucked up it is the more I like it.

 No.2490

>>2486
Gasp a fellow mob psycho fan. Post links to best fics.

 No.2491

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>>2490
Omg hello! Well you're in luck, MP100 has consistently the highest quality of fic of any fandom I've ever been in, so there's too much to choose from. What pairings or kinks are you looking for and I'd be more than happy to fetch some of my favorites.

 No.2493

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>>2491
I'm super into noncon, reimob or mobrei (ageswap is good between them), ohh I love Ritsu and his brother together, hot no matter who tops. SeriMob, but there are literally NO fics, I mean there are, but they all mostly suck… I like Minori x Reigen, but that doesn't exist I don't think.

 No.2494

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>>2493
Holy shit your taste is fucking SUPERB, you have no idea how excited I am to scour for you. I'm also soso happy to meet another SeriMob fan- we are so rare! I really want to write a SeriMob fic where NEET Serizawa kidnaps Shigeo and implants a device inside of him that will kill Serizawa if he attempts to use his powers to escape, using his pacifism against him. I just want him so gross and drooling over his perfect untouched body. Shigeo deserves to be objectified no matter by who. I also really like Tou/Seri/Mob where Touchirou wins and collects Shigeo as his prize and Serizawa has to struggle with potential insubordination and extreme jealousy.

Give me a couple hours to compile.

 No.2495

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>>2494
Nonnaaaa, I wait with bated breath and all that jazz. Holy shit please write it! Mob not wanting to hurt Seri even though he's being held against his will and treated like his plaything. I love it, it's so dark and perfectly twisted, and perfectly encapsulates what Mob is all about. He's so kind, it makes him weak.

 No.2496

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>>2495
WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS PICTURE, DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE god just look how BIG he is, towering over him, his frame almost completely obfuscating Shigeo. Ugh just think about how scared shy, introverted Shige would be finding himself in this tiny, cramped, moldy den with a man twice his age and size kissing his feet telling him how much he loves him and how long he's waited for this and how happy they'll be together and Shigeo has absolutely no clue who he is. (kidnapping may be my biggest kink (speaking of, I just discovered this 5 minutes ago and am losing my motherfucking mind https://archiveofourown.org/works/50017852/chapters/126294520 ))

 No.2497

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>>2496
I feel like this comic is more in line with Seri's character than Reigen's, but it's still reallyyy hot so I forgive it. Damn, he's so delusional. Poor Mob, cry more.

Also I'm sorry! I don't have the source, somebody posted it somewhere. I've only just recently started titling the things I save in my folders with creators names. A little too late, but, at least now I can find things.

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>>2479
>Otherwise post your favorite yandere incest and sell me on why I should ship them.
If you like RitMob, you might also like YoriMichi/MichiYori from Demon Slayer. There's some shared tropes in common (older bro is more like a younger bro and vice versa, one of them is born the most OP character in the series like Mob and the other one has an inferiority complex over it, except it's the younger bro who's talented and the older bro who's resentful) but warning that these are endgame characters whose story isn't fully in the anime yet and one of them is already dead before the story starts, since the other is, well, an immortal demon. If you care about spoilers for this series don't read below, but
>Obsessed with each other in different ways
>Older bro ditched his arranged marriage wife and kids to chase after younger bro, and canonically doesn't even remember their faces after 400 years, only his bro's
>Older bro became a demon to try and surpass younger bro, who refused to kill him so he got kicked out of the demon slayer organization
>Lots of fic where the younger bro goes yandere and tries to turn demon bro back into a human, but either or both of them can be made yandere very easily
>Demon guy canonically ate his bro after he died
>Demon bro thinks OP bro hated him all his life but OP bro only ever loved him

That's just me trying to summarize the main parts but there's a lot more going on. This ship has me obsessed

 No.2499

>>2498
It's a shame I hate the demon slayer art style, because that ship sounds hot as hell

 No.2500

>>2499
Personally I love the art style so it's a plus for me, but you can probably still look at fanart.

 No.2515

>>2461
Thank you for the TK food nonna ehehe

 No.2519

>>2450
> i might as well start making brother/brother ocs at this point.
You should do it anyways. I have five pairs of brothers and one pair of sisters whose stories I've been working on and off for the past couple of years. I'll probably never finish them but it's been pretty fun torturing my OC's with incestous rape.

 No.2556

>>1242
I love it, but only certain dynamics and because underage is gross, dadcon and brocon ships gotta be over 18 across the board.
The dad has to bottom for dadcon, but not in a whimpering submissive mess way (ew) like most JP fujos seem to like. He has got to be a power bottom. He’s gotta show his boy the ropes! Bonus points if he has a little bit of self-hate over being such a creepy old man for wanting to fuck his son too. Though I don’t like these ships being purely skeevy horny shit. I like when there’s parallels to, for example, the son’s character arc having something to do with struggling to accept his culture or upbringing, so falling in love with his dad is a twisted, primal way of giving into his nature and recognizing his origins.
As for brocon, love when they’re obsessed with each other in their different fucked up ways that they themselves don’t even recognize. Jealousy, manipulation, etc. Getting mad when the other has a girlfriend, starting fights, all that good stuff.

 No.2557

>>2556
>underage is gross
you’re entitled to your opinion and all, but posting this in the incest thread of a board that regularly complains about not being able to post lewd shota anymore is like throwing a stone from your glass house. sorry.

 No.2558

>>2557
NTA but I like that we have people with different opinions on things, keeps the site from becoming an echo chamber.

Personally like dad/son with sub dad who's horrified and ashamed his son is coming onto him. Which sounds like the exact opposite of what that anon prefers lol.

 No.2559

>>2556
>>2558
>horrified and ashamed
I feel like dad/son whole appeal is that to me, which i think many writers fail to portray (for shame).

Like the shame of your son coming into you combined with a sense of guilt because the dad want the same thing. A father is supposed to love his son unconditionally, so what happens when you also mix romantic love into it?

I feel like not many writers try to portray it.

As for father topping/bottom. I think I'd like to see more fathers top.A lot of incest fics have it bottom not sure why.

 No.2560

>>2558
you’re definitely right, and i agree (especially when it comes to our shit-you-like/shit-you-hate threads, which are so diverse). i just felt like poking fun at the irony a little bit.

>>2559
this is so real. and it applies to all incest for me, not just dad/son. i can’t stand it when fics end up portraying the incest ship exactly as a normal couple, with absolutely no introspection or fear of backlash whatsoever. and it’s even worse when the fic has everyone around the main couple being fine with it as well. if someone is going to openly fuck their dad or brother, then i expect them to burn a few bridges along the way, y’know? bonus points for terrible if there’s a “coming out” as an incestuous couple scene, which just makes me cringe.

>a lot of incest fics have it bottom not sure why.

might be a power dynamic thing? i think there definitely are people who want to explore incestuous dynamics while avoiding anything that reminds them of irl abuse, so having the son be the aggressor and the dad bottoming makes it a bit more palatable to them. idk. that’s my theory anyways.

 No.2561

>>2560
Yes, yes, yes! Holy cow the appeal of the ship is the taboo nature, if both parties are chill with it and jump into a relationship with no repercussions or hesitations it takes me right out of it.

 No.2562

>>2557
If someone is pissy that I think underage is gross then that’s her problem. I don’t see why I can’t post about my own opinions on a thread that’s asking for opinions.
>>2559
I wish I knew where you were finding these bottom dads, because I’m mostly finding top dads unfortunately! Like >>2560 I also love when shame and guilt is mixed in. I hate when they act like a normal couple. They never will be! Either they burn trying to keep it up or it ruins their relationship forever or I don’t wanna read it . You’ve gotta wonder what’s going on with people who write those cringy coming out scenes and accepting environments lol. Probably young or autistic.

 No.2563

>>2560
>>2562
Oh sorry anons, I was thinking in term of manga. I think the few father/son incest stuff I've seen in anime and manga always has the son topping.
I'm not sure why, I think may be more "acceptable" for the son to do it or either to imagine?
I think because seme/uke are very much about chaser/being chased, so it's easier to imagine the son doing the chase and the father resisting than it is the father (who is normally older and therefor stronger).

I do like the son being the chaser and also the bottom, not gonna lie (Some Tojigumi fics like https://archiveofourown.org/works/29444004)

Though in fics I usually tend to see the most depraved and badly written shit in the the father/son tag on AO3, usually smutfics with a focus on pissing and diaper for some reason. A lot of them don't really know how to handle the subtitle of the whole forbidden angle.

> Either they burn trying to keep it up or it ruins their relationship forever or I don’t wanna read it .


Agree. I especially love the whole self reflection how there is "No coming back from it" because how do you coming back from fucking your son? It just damages you as a father forever and you are going to see each other as sexual objects. Then the slow build up from "I'm going absolutely depraved shit with my son" to "fuck the world our love is real build up is just delicious", but so few writers bother.

 No.2564

>>2563
Oh, I can definitely make an exception for when the son is the chaser and also the bottom. It gets toxic and interesting when it's one-sided on the son's part, but the father clearly has more power, so why wouldn't the father be pushing him off or stopping him… (the self-hate and guilt angle like always!)

> but so few writers bother.


Yeah. Most of the fics for pairings I like are really short, so there's never the slow-burn a dynamic like this needs. I understand not wanting to spend a lot of time on something only a few people will read and enjoy.

> I usually tend to see the most depraved and badly written shit in the the father/son tag on AO3


Honestly, I attribute this mostly to male writers. I noticed men are always behind the other depraved fetish fics that always shoehorn incest into there just because, with the characters so OOC, they might as well be plugging their names into a pre-written template to make them act out their favorite godless pornos.

 No.2565

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>>2564
Reminds me of my favorite incest I read was slow burn "Monster of memory". Because it was a VN it felt like was able to slowly build the incest twist and because it was two brothers it had less resistance from the characters.


Speaking of brothers, older/younger and younger/older feel both equally popular? I think in general there is less resistance and less power imbalance between two brothers. Thought I think I still see more younger seme? Something about younger characters being the seme in incest seem more prevalent to me, at least in pure BL. Though no idea why people even bother to make brothers non blood related.

I guess dad/son is probably the hardest for many people because even among incest fans is considered forbidden. So you are mostly left with a few writers looking for a quick fap or whatever which fair I guess.

But dang, I love a good father/son slow psychological build up. The amount of slow, subtle lust, the ashamed gaze culminating in a hard fuck in which they give up to all their incestuous lust.

 No.2571

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I recently made some incestuous OCs, but it made me wonder: do people feel it's cheap or a cop out if the incest pair have a mythical/old god theme? Especially with a meta context that some characters will shrug it off like "well, gods are a bit fucked like that I guess". I didn't set off to do anything deviant just folksy, but now I think about it it's awfully convenient and someone might think it's a deliberate attempt to "play it safe". Funny that I now anticipate that but some of my fav ships got accused of being "safe incest" or "incest repellent" in the last year so I feel like there are some brats trying to police if your incest is kosher or not. On the other hand, people might turn their nose up at even the mildest inclusion so the ones who would read your ideas are limited to those who want something else out of the tags.

>>2563
I can't remember being into any son/father ships but with student/teacher ships the appeal for me is the idea of overtaking the older person. They used to be small, weak, and dependent, but now they're seizing control of the relationship, whether it's by dub/noncon or generally pushing their desires in daily activities. As a kink I definitely think about size and physical power difference, it's basic as shit but thinking the younger one grew up bigger sets my brain off. Some part of the raising aspect in there too, that the larger/stronger kid is somehow their own fault they're now dealing with. Danmei really has you covered on that, pic related.

 No.2572

>>2571
>I recently made some incestuous OCs, but it made me wonder: do people feel it's cheap or a cop out if the incest pair have a mythical/old god theme? Especially with a meta context that some characters will shrug it off like "well, gods are a bit fucked like that I guess". I didn't set off to do anything deviant just folksy, but now I think about it it's awfully convenient and someone might think it's a deliberate attempt to "play it safe". Funny that I now anticipate that but some of my fav ships got accused of being "safe incest" or "incest repellent" in the last year so I feel like there are some brats trying to police if your incest is kosher or not. On the other hand, people might turn their nose up at even the mildest inclusion so the ones who would read your ideas are limited to those who want something else out of the tags.


At least for me, mythical incest doesn't' feel as incest. I'm not sure why, I think part of it is that with gods I guess it's hard to care if the share the same dna or not?

 No.2573

>>2572
ditto. i don’t want to discourage anyone from making oc incest content, because i always want to see more of it in the world, but i just don’t vibe with it in mythology as hard. the same feeling of taboo just isn’t there. maybe because it sort of takes the humanity out of it? idk.

for me, the shame and guilt and taboo is so inherent to my enjoyment of incest that having incest be even slightly accepted or trivialized in the setting totally ruins it for me. royalty for whom inbreeding is expected? don’t care for it. divine beings that aren’t bound by human customs? meh. anything less than “if anyone finds out, our lives are over” levels of secrecy and guilt just doesn’t hit the same.

 No.2574

>>2573
Yeah I think with gods and shit the "human" elements is missing. The most obvious example is Greek gods, who would fuck anything, who rape people and shapeshift to animals. At that point incest doesn't feel like a big deal and it's not like they actually have DNA.

Royalty works for me in the context of "the king is fucking his son" but not too much "I'm marrying my cousin/uncle of the opposite sex to keep the bloodline pure" because no one cares.

They "key" to incest is the forbidden aspect, the hidden lust and shame that brings it and the mix of familiar love with romantic love.

 No.2575

>>2574
>because no one cares
Unless they're Fire Emblem "fans".

 No.2577

>>2572
>>2573
Yeah, this is what I was thinking when I asked. I prefer non-human incest because the feel is about being primal or instinctive and indulgent and that's what I'm into rather than the societal taboo. Easy example would be something like vampire siblings, they're already an affront to human morals so the incest isn't surprising, but it does represent them being hedonistic because they're so driven to pursue pleasure they'll start going at one another. It's a completely different flavor so I would highlight the vampire tag way before the incest so people know what they're getting.

 No.2592

Does anyone else have fave or preferred terms of address? I think the varying levels of formality and the nuances you can have in relationship are neat.
>Oniichan
>Nii-san
?Onii-sama
>Ani-ue
>Otou-sama
>Oyaji
>Plain name
>Nickname
etc
Doesn't have to be Japanese either, feel free to mention other language terms. (Though when it comes to Chinese I'm more of a shizun kink person and that only pseudo-applies to this thread, I did read at least one cnovel where the shizun-fucking relationship was socially considered incest but it seems to vary by author)

 No.2593

>>2592
For brothers, niichan and niisan reigns supreme. Aniki sounds a bit too funny, but I guess it can work sometimes.
For dadson, it has to be oyaji during day to day conversations and otousan or papa during sex. I'm just autistic like that. Bonus if the dad claps back with a 'kuso gaki' or something.
Plain names with no honorifics sound too distant for me.

 No.2594

>>2592
>>2593
Nii san is fine fo rme but leaving otousan untl is cringe. Papa also makes me think of toddler, I just like dad.

 No.2595

>>2592
Depends heavily on the specific character involved, but I usually like "father" or "old man." Usually I like the son to dominate sk I want him to be a bit teasing and mean. Otou-san or Oyaji are OK for Japanese works.

 No.2596

>>2594
>>2595
>Papa also makes me think of toddler
I agree, this would be an instant boner killer on the same level as 'daddy' if I ever ran into it
>old man
I like this too for the same reasons.

After getting into a few historical setting ships, I definitely have a huge thing for 'ani-ue'. 'onii-sama' makes me cringe, but something about historical context and formal hierarchy involved makes it hot. You usually see it for like, brothers who are samurai or other noblemen, and often you'll get other drama such as being raised apart due to rules about being strict with first-born sons. Something about the combination of formal address/respect with lack of actual closeness scratches something for me.
You get the same drama with the parent relationships too but I can't really take 'chichi-ue' seriously, it sounds too silly.

 No.2597

>>2593
I'd use aniki for HiyoRona because it shows the dumb reverence with which Hideo treats his older brother. He's a grown man but he still admires his bro like a hero.

>>2596
Aniue is very good for strained exclamations and needy whining. Chichiue I've never heard sound hot coming from someone referring to another, but it's different if the father figure is asserting that it's his title. It's like going "you will treat me intimately but with respect". Historical/hierarchical setting adds more flavor to the power dynamic, it's taboo but they don't have a choice when someone of higher status forces them. The shame an older relative would go through if their own child had the upper hand on them to that degree! Also there's always so many uncles of ill repute in historical settings like court dramas, and copious amounts of alcohol. There should be more of that but I feel like it's veering on "safe" again.

 No.2598

>>2597
>Uncles
Somehow I made it this long in the thread without remembering that this is my favorite flavor of m/m incest. (And I don't have the same cringe response to 'oji-ue' as 'chichi-ue' either)
>spoiler
Yep, that's what they're good for. Seedy alcoholic noble uncles!
>Aniue is very good for strained exclamations and needy whining
Nonna, you understand! I also like it coldly-spoken when discussing being enemies by circusmstance of war or just good old fashioned trying to murder each other, as samurai love to do. (I only watched one drama but there was so much of cousins, siblings, uncles, in-laws, etc plotting against each other and sometimes casually lamenting it but in like a 'whoops, what can you do' way)

 No.2599

>>2598
Uncles are very meh to me. Not sure why though, unless they are fucking and trying to keep it a secret from the dad or something.

 No.2600

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Does anyone know if there's some sort of research when it comes to the prevalece of incest in BL?
I tried, but all I kept getting were hentai site tags.
For the longest time I could think of, brocon(male-male) pretty much has incestous connotations and almost every character that gets called such gets accepted by the fandom as incestuous.
I also remember that, incest ships have been mostly popular through the years (wincest as a whole comes to mind) but as of later years most fujos condemn it even though I swear it wasn't as debated before.
Brothers are usually the most common, very rare to find dadson but uncle still gets around every here and there. Still, I definitely believe it's something very intertwined with BL in the same vein as shota and uke catboys.

 No.2601

>>2600
>even though I swear it wasn't as debated before.
I also remember "brocon" type characters being far less debated. I was into any at the time but as an outsider it seemed like since nobody in the narrative matched the intensity of the feelings the brother had for the other brother (mutual or not), the most popular ship for that usually character was their brother. Simple as.

 No.2614

>>2571
>I recently made some incestuous OCs, but it made me wonder: do people feel it's cheap or a cop out if the incest pair have a mythical/old god theme?
It depends, is the presence of taboo still there in the setting or is it normalized?
>As a kink I definitely think about size and physical power difference, it's basic as shit but thinking the younger one grew up bigger sets my brain off
Not incest, but a childhood friend returning after a long absence only now they're hot is a similar kink of mine, especially if they're now much bigger than the MC.

>>2573
>for me, the shame and guilt and taboo is so inherent to my enjoyment of incest that having incest be even slightly accepted or trivialized in the setting totally ruins it for me
Basically this. If the incest is socially accepted it's no longer different from any other pairing.

>>2577
>I prefer non-human incest because the feel is about being primal or instinctive and indulgent and that's what I'm into rather than the societal taboo
This is how I feel about non-con. I want the non-human to come from a background where using people when the urge arises is considered perfectly normal and the receiver should accept it.

>>2600
Gay sex itself has been a taboo and I have always considered it an extension of this in fiction. This doesn't apply IRL, but if you're indulging in something that's looked down on, why limit it?

 No.2651

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I love twincest so much, it's the best! Twins are basically soul mates (they have to be identical though, fraternal twins are no fun.) They share everything together, right down to the molecules that make up their DNA. Literally one soul split into two bodies. They're so close to eachother the line between whose body belongs to who starts to blur and they touch eachother freely. Its their birthright after all. No-one could ever understand them like they understand eachother. They were fated to be together since even before they were born. They fit together perfectly like two clasped hands. Twincest truly is god's gift to fujoshi.

Sorry for writing fanfiction in the incest thread kek I'm very passionate about this trope. Every time there's a pair of twin brothers in any game/anime/manga I will ship them together even if they hate eachother. It's just not right for them to be apart.

 No.2652

>>2651
Spardacest is patrician taste.

 No.2668

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>>2652
Spardacest is what every angsty twincest pairing wishes it could be. Two brothers who have chosen different paths but they're still repeatedly drawn together by fate, the countless homoerotic violent battles as a way of bonding, the red demon vs. blue demon trope. It's got it all. It's the golden standard for twincest.
Throw Nero into the mix and things get extra juicy

 No.2669

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>>2668
>Nero
Oh absolutely. So hot to have a whore like Dante getting fucked by his autistic twin and his nephew.

 No.2709

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What about foster parents and step-siblings? Is it a cop-out?

 No.2713

>>2709
normally i'd say it's a cop-out. imo the entire appeal of this trope lies in the taboo aspect of two blood-relatives fucking. step-incest is just not as fucked up as actual incest to me.
your picrel does have the same appeal as blood-related incest though. maybe it's because dhurke is the closest thing apollo's ever had to a real father. but something like nahyuta/apollo doesn't feel like incest at all, it just feels like they're regular childhood friends.

 No.2715

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>>2709
Still counts for me as long as it’s presented as a proper familial relationship in the canon. Blood related or not, what matters to me is the intensity of the relationship. It’s a type of love that transcends the boundary between familial affection and erotic intimacy.

 No.2716

>>2709
I don't see step-sibling stuff as incest at all so I don't have a specific opinion on it. I'd say both are a cop-out. I hate AA6 for what it did to Apollo's character and backstory so I hate the pic you posted kek, I'm sorry anon.

 No.2717

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>>2709
Depends. Sometimes it can be pretty how to see a young man fuck the man who raised him.

 No.2718

>>2717
I can't read the title on the image you posted nona, it is a BL? the bearded redhead guy is cute

 No.2719

>>2718
No, but there is some subtext Madou no Keifu

 No.2755

>>2592
I have an elaborate daydream world involving a fathercon son (the uke) who addresses his father (the seme) as Otou-sama. Something about the formality of the title mixed with the forbidden desire for his father is just perfect for my tastes.

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 No.2815

There is never enough Uke Dad! I want more pathetic fathers getting pressured by their sons! Does anyone know any good series with this dynamic?

 No.2817

>>2815
Squall/Laguna (FF8) used to be pretty good for this, but it's been yeeeeeeears since I've checked in on it. It was extra exquisite because Laguna knows he's Squall's dad but Squall (usually) does not.

 No.3093

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>>2651
Spardacest is peak. That was one of my first exposures to twincest.
I absolutely love twincest, identical or not although I also think identical twins are admittedly kinda spicier… Bonus points if they were forcibly separated and have complicated and angsty feelings towards each other that inevitably keeps them pining for each other. Nowadays my favorite twincest ship is tennriku from idolish7. They’re fraternal twins, but in anime logic that just means their appearance is mirrored and they have adjacent color schemes. I really like when they complement each other like this.

 No.3097

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I didn't like The Hobbit movies as a whole, but I'm glad we got so much Thranduil/Legolas out of it.

 No.3127

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I got nostalgic today for the period of my life when I played japanese idol boy gacha games via qooapp and I was reminded of how these slutty twins from I-chu got me into twincest. I'm not even calling them slutty for the memes, they sing a lewd song together that's pretty much about sex.

 No.3174

>>3093 God, TennRiku really is the peak of brocon to me. They're clearly only attacted to each other and have been made for each other ever since theyre shared space in the belly.

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>>3174
I know, right? They’re literally meant for each other. I love that Riku acts like such a spoiled younger brother but Tenn can’t stop worrying about him so he kinda feeds into their codependency because he feels guilty about the time they spent separated as kids. Their brocon dynamic is just everything to me. I can’t stop listening to Incomplete Ruler because their voices singing in harmony together is so beautiful, like they’re yearning for each other
>>3127
I didn’t play I-chu for very long but damn, these boys are really cute. I should’ve given this game a chance

 No.3224

God incest is one of the best tropes. I heavily prefer brother/brother ships, you can never go wrong with brocon, it can be twisted into so many delicious variants. Personally one of my favorite tropes is when their parents are neglectful and they're forced to rely on each other and their brotherly love accidentally becomes something more. Or classic abuse, where the older brother constantly takes advantage of the younger brother but the younger brother is too trusting of the older brother/looks up to him too much to accept that he's being hurt. Fatherson isn't bad at all and neither is uncle/nephew but I prefer brocon all the same. Speaking of uncle/nephew, I'm thinking of writing a short fic of an uncle raping his nephew because he was in love with the nephew's father (his brother), and the nephew looks exactly like he did when he was younger.

 No.3226

>>3205
>I didn’t play I-chu for very long but damn, these boys are really cute. I should’ve given this game a chance
I've been thinking lately I could give the anime a chance. Apparently at some point after I stopped playing the original game was rebooted and the anime is based on that reboot.



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