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 No.44[Last 50 Posts]

A thread for anyone interested in female characters, F/F shipping, yuri, GL, etc. Topics to discuss include
>Your favourite female characters
>Your favourite F/F pairing
>Your waifu
>Waifuism and self-shipping in general
>Female characters in BL franchises
Site rules still apply. Obviously loli content is not welcome here.

 No.45

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Makima is my favourite 2D woman of all time and I love her dynamic with Quanxi, Chainsaw Man's resident lesbian, even though her affection is mostly the result of brainwashing. Still, I like to imagine they worked together in the past and perhaps Quanxi got caught up in Makima's allure…. They just look so good together. I can't help myself.

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It's funny, I am obsessed with and attracted to 2D boys 90-99% of the time, but I've never had a true husbando. However, I've had a waifu for over a decade. And it was her birthday yesterday! Happy birthday Luka, I love you!

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everyone, please meet my wife.

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I truly hope this isn't a moid choice because she is my darling

 No.50

>>45
i love the idea of makima forcibly domming power but i can't expand on it here because this isn't /ex/

 No.51

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I adore Yukari, she's my powerful, elegant wife, and she just so happens to have one of my favorite theme songs of all time.
Also, the only reason that I ship her with Reimu is to self insert because she has brown hair lol, I'm a fucking simpleton.

 No.53

>>51
I love her too! She’s my favorite 2hu.

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I love her character SO much, she was a huge inspiration to me when I first played the game. One of the best written female characters in anime/gaming IMO and so underrated. I also love that she is relatable as an adult character; still being silly, disorganized and kind of childish at times, because honestly I find a lot of animanga/vidya adult characters act way too different to how people in their 20s actually act irl.
I love you Maya

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Yuu Kashima! I love my silly handsome wife.

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>>58
>Maya from Persona 2 is based
>Maya from Ace Attorney is based
There's something about that name, it can't be a coincidence.

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I love them and scrotes do not deserve them.

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>>48
>maggie
excellent tatse sister, nice to see fellow Aksister

>>49
oh its not! i love nozomi, she's my LL wifes

finally thread for me. i love W and Amiya so much sister. theyre my most favorite arknights character and their dynamic is so great aaaah. i have so many fav AK girls. AK girls is so great honestly there's many handsome and beautiful girl, it cater to my fetish.

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>>47
Holy shit, Luka was my bisexual awakening. Great taste, nonnie!

 No.299

>>298
Queen!!!! You don’t know how happy this post made me. I love you Luka sis.

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>>51
Are you me, anon? Yukari is based and I love seeing her as Reimu's mysterious benefactor/mentor. They are the cutest pairing in Touhou.

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>>299
Love you too! I'm glad I'm not alone <3

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I love Yukari so much. She makes male P3 fans seethe because she's a well-written character with her own goals, ambitions and personality who just happens to have a crush on the male MC instead of because a fanservicey waifu who's obsessed with the MC like Aigis and some of the other female characters from the rest of the series, and given how similar to the MC she is at the beginning she could have been the protagonist and nothing would have changed. She's so cool, and she saved my ass so often since she's a reliable white mage. I wish she were a gay option in P3P.

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here's some yuri that makes me think of bl:

>https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/cat_piercing

one-shot. cold, possessive top with a weak-willed bottom. picrel is from this.

>https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/with_that_forbidden_girl_in_a_forbidden_place

title sort of gives it away but this leans hard into the ~forbidden love~ trope. it's not cute & fluffy as it usually is in yuri though; rather kind of dark and sexy and desperately co-dependent.


>https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_we_were_to_put_a_name_to_this_stagnant_relationship

another one-shot. more typical seme/uke feeling stuff.

…and that's all i feel like typing out. here's a small list i have going on d-s: https://dynasty-scans.com/lists/244559-gl-that-reads-like-bl

 No.625

I like Motoko from Ghost in the Shell.

 No.626

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Not really a himejo but a Marimite enjoyer. Wanna start reading the novels soon…there's 30 of them tho

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>>626
Maria-sama is good, and I think a lot of modern f/f ships are lacking in communication conflict as a plot device.

Onii-sama E I liked from that reason too, but the content was much more mature and dark without being inherently sexual.

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>>44
Gundam has some cool girls. Haman Karn and Cima Garahau for instance. They're fucked up without being hysteric banshees you're supposed to just hate nor dolls with trivial "flaws". I also love Diana from Turn A both as a character and think her design is pretty and one of my favourite in anime. Sumeragi from 00 also gets an honorable mention from me.

I think Gundam gets a little overlooked by western female otaku because mecha anime in general have an undeserved reputation of being just pew pew robot fights here, but Gundam series (and a lot of other mecha anime really) tend to be more character-driven space operas if anything. It's a little funny noticing the difference between Japanese women gushing over the Gundam franchise and then it being quiet across the pond (aside from the infamous Wing fangirls in the 90s). I'll end my Gundam autism here.

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>>700
in what ways are they fucked up? also how do you define a "doll with trivial flaws"?

 No.705

>>702
tldr; Haman and Cima are jaded war criminals, charismatic manipulators, and stopped giving a fuck in general. Haman in particular is off the deep end beyond her warmongering with being too troubled by events from her youth and isn't a good person. Cima carries a lot of baggage from her past as well but at least seems like someone you wouldn't mind having a personal relationship with, if you don't mind that she's a war criminal.

>also how do you define a "doll with trivial flaws"

I had in mind a type of anime character that gets pushed by the narrative as defective or flawed but it's just a single trait that either serves to make them cute/quirky or is otherwise something that barely even qualifies as a flaw. A lot of waifubait is like this.

 No.708

>>705
you've given me something to add to my backlog nona; thanks.

 No.716

>>700
Don't stop your Gundam autism, I need /m/ fujos and himejos to talk to.

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>>624
these were good reads

anyways, my personal weakness is cute genderbends of whatever ship im into at the moment. it feels like the best of both worlds to me

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I love butch looking female character. My waifu is noi from dorohedoro

 No.903

How come for m/m there's both a female gaze genre (BL) and a male gaze genre (Bara/Geicomi), there's no equivalent split for Yuri?

Josei style Yuri recommendations are welcomed and appreciated

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>>903
maybe lesbians/bisexuals in japan are satisfied with yuri. or maybe the purpose of geicomi/bara differs so strongly from yaoi/bl that it needs to be categorically separated.

anyway i'm finding that korean/chinese webtoons don't often give me "uwuu pure lilies uwuwuwuwuwuwuw" vibes. they feel like they were made by actual women. so, here's some stuff i liked; most of these can be found on mangago, but do pop by mangadex for better scans (maybe, idk if they'll be there because mdex is corny about copyright).

>Her Tale of Shim Chong

a favorite, so it's first. historical drama chronicling the relationship between a poor, roguish slum girl and the wife of a noble. the schemes they pull to get revenge on the wife's family are fun to watch.

>Opium, by Aji

didn't finish this one, but it's about a pair of doctors in umm…early, developing south korea. feels like a bl kinda because of how wimpy and blushy the mc is against her love interest (who's cold, unfeeling, manipulative and always in control of the situation, etc.).

>Moonlight Garden

it's like abo, kind of…except omegas are the only gender. the main setting is a brothel and there's this entire caste of women who forcibly "bloom" once a month (e.g. they get stupid horny and start to smell like flowers). the world is also matriarchal, which is based.

>Beloved (Jaeliu)

another favorite. age-gap between a doctor (i think she was 30…something?) and a high-schooler she accidentally hooked up with. it's dramatic and tackles the subject seriously, though. kind of ends on an unsatisfying note, so be careful.

>What Does The Fox Say

kind of a gl classic. though i only faintly remember it because i read it back in high-school, lol. anyway it's about women in an office…and the mind games they play on one another.

this has gotten crazy long so i'll stop here but as a bonus recommendation: the gl version of the sadistic beauty side-story is pretty good. fluffy bdsm.

 No.905

>>904
>maybe lesbians/bisexuals in japan are satisfied with yuri
not them but if my experiences on japanese twitter are anything to go by, they definitely aren't. lot's of butthurt over men shitting it up when the topic goes around to the point where they've made it trend a few times.

 No.906

>>904
Moonlight Garden was so good I ended up buying it legally through Lezhin's ENG app and I started reading Shim Cheong forever ago. I'll look into the rest.

And the Chinese/Korean webtoon scene feels more female dominated at the moment. I'm hoping it stays that way.

 No.907

>>905
>lot's of butthurt over men shitting it up when the topic goes around to the point where they've made it trend a few times
this is so interesting. what tags do they tend to use?
also, is there ever any outrage from gay men about fujoshi ~sexualizing them~? i feel like that's purely a western, aiden thing.

>>906
have you tried kill me now? https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kill_me_now/
i'm not too terribly fond of it (the art's kind of wonky and i'm picky as fuck) but it's about a hitwoman and the girl that's trying to kill her.

 No.908

>>907
>what tags do they tend to use?
I don't know because I only read into it when it gets retweeted onto my timeline or makes it to the trends.

>is there ever any outrage from gay men about fujoshi ~sexualizing them~?

I never see it. From personal experience, most Jap gay men are "meh" about the existence BL, and at worst just laugh at it. As long as fujos aren't acting creepy towards real life gays they don't care. Also more and more are reading it due to widespread internet use both improving the quality of BL (due to easy access to info, reviews, opinions, etc), and making it easier to discover different kinds of BL. There's occasionally BL review columns in gay magazines these days.

That's not to say there has never been trouble. Like 30 years ago there was some hostility because of some dumb drama that happened between BL readers and geicomi readers. It's kinda complicated but comes down to some out of line childish fujos sticking their nose where it doesn't belong and forcing their ideals on geicomi by bugging magazine editorials, and then gays retaliating by ridiculing BL and women in general. This was fairly short lived, and has since long been addressed and put in the past by acting like adults.

Yuri could have had a similar fate if straight men didn't perpetually have their heads up their asses. For a lot of Japanese lesbians, hostility towards straight men in yuri isn't because of the inherent fact that they're straight men, but rather how they completely dismissed women while basically invading and taking over what was a women's space, and their continued attitude and behavior over the decades to follow. In a way this has some similarities to the above issue of old fujos sticking their nose where it didn't belong, but in this case the issue has gone on for decades and never remedied because of the out of control arrogance of straight men and them not even pretending to care or listen. There has been the occasional suggestion of making terms to split women-targeted and men-targeted lesbian genres, but lesbians are holding on hard to yuri because it was theirs to begin with, and since straight men do not give even the slightest fuck about how women feel, men also stick with yuri and nothing has ever come of it. So basically tldr; decades of arrogant straight male behavior has created a hostile situation in the Japanese yuri community, when all men had to do was the simple job of not being assholes.

 No.910

>>907
From my experience gay men who aren't fudanshis are largely indifferent to BL and don't really care about fujos or their existence, at worst they laugh at how unrealistic it is. But not once have I come across an actual gay man with a penis who had meltdowns over muh fetishization, the bigger annoyance for them are the faghags treating them as accessories and closeted bi men who want to have them as sex dispensers.

>>908
A very interesting read, thank you so much for writing it anon. I haven't seen a lot of documentation about Japanese lesbians and their relationship with yuri so it's great to hear some insight on it. I've heard bits and pieces like that they love Sailor Moon for its lesbian couples and treat Utena as their bible but most of them just seem to be into shipping rather than original content. I don't know. I can't imagine any legitimate lesbian looking at the yuri series portraying oversexualized 16-year olds performing for the male gaze so I often wonder what they even consume over there.

 No.924

>>910
I've never seen much butthurt for men in the places I hang around and talk about BL, mostly the are indistinguishable from women as long they are old anime fans and old.

 No.929

>>907
>also, is there ever any outrage from gay men about fujoshi ~sexualizing them~?
I think there's a growing interest in more realistic gay relationships in BL among fujoshi. Not because of muh representation but simply because there's a lot more to offer in terms of narrative and scenarios, and in turn it seems there's also a growing demand for this kind of BL among gay men in Japan. See the success of Until I Met My Husband. I always got the impression that the reason why most gay men are indifferent towards BL or openly reject it is because they're only exposed to the most surface-level popular stuff, and for many years that stuff was shit like Junjou Romantica. Japan homos are now finding out about the huge variety of modern BL and they are getting into it.

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Ougi Oshino-chan is best Monogatari girl and noone can convince otherwise! <3

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If you can read Jp at all I highly recommend Yuri-hime magazine. So good. You can find it on nyaa.

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>>44
I found my home.
I really wish there was an online space for himejos but it would get overrun with moids and troons immediately.

I really like Patchy. I think she would be fun to sit around and read books with.

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Used to be one of those misogynistic fujos who hated female characters, Madoka Magica taught me the error of my ways. Still prefer the men in a series 95% of the time but dang if it isn't a yuri gateway. Homura and Sayaka are my favorites.

>>1156
Personally prefer Shinobu and Kanbaru, but Ougi is great. Wish they appeared in more of it.

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Since I'm a fujo I don't actually have a husbando, however I do have a waifu~

 No.1545

>>1234
If I knew how to host a chan I would definitely create a Himechan. If trannies or moids try to come on, they'll just get banned lol. If my site gets taken down for >muh twansphobic hate speech I'll just rehost it somewhere else.

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>>1538
lots of the ships in pmmm feel like bl ships is the thing. i'll just focus on the main two but you have kyosaya which has the whole red vs. blue, hated one another from the first look, rivals to friends to lovers thing going on, and then you have homumado which is like. obsessive, domineering love – i personally think these sorts of complicated female relationships are rarely seen in other animanga.

also: usually if two girls genuinely hate one another it's over a guy, something petty and stereo-typically "feminine" (they're both the prettiest girls in the school and arguing about that), or played up for sex appeal and "cat fights".

i hope this doesn't sound too spergy/tinfoil-y. tl;dr – most female characters in animanga are fucking terribly written, even in genres aimed towards women. pmmm girls aren't, and that's probably why they tend to rope in people who usually only ship m/m.

 No.1548

>>1546
Too bad Madoka was written by a moid

 No.1550

>>1548
Urobuchi is a great author though, lots of variance in the types of characters he chooses to write.

 No.1551

>>1550
fr. urobuchi also gave us akane (psycho pass) who i would argue is one of the better fem mcs out there. people who hate on him are kind of ignorant imo

 No.1552

>>1550
Agree, Urobuchi is legitimately the only male author I know who knows how to write a good female character without sexualization. I never get that gross mouthbreather feel from his stories even when they center around a woman.

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>>1546
I definitely don't think you sound tinfoil-y. In fact while I've heard people say that the rise in slash and yaoi fangirls was due to a desire for diverse representation and the like I'd argue it's because most female characters are so poorly written, especially in the world of animation.

Japan either has decent all female cast shows, or the characters are terrible 10th generation dere archetypes which were already played out by the early 2000s.

Meanwhile, over here in the west you've either got characters who only serve to be a love interest, or are the "strong independent woman" who all have the same exact marketable personality. It's terrible.


I think America media especially in recent years has an issue with seeing women as a hivemind. There can only be one "good" type of female character. This has been made especially apparent to me on my recent Disney re-watch journey. There is somehow actually more female diversity in older Disney movies than recent ones. It's actually mind-boggling.

For instance Cinderalla has the cold, Lady Tremaine. She is calculating, scheming, holds resentment towards Cinderella because she was born into wealth. Cinderella herself is a bit snarky (didn't remember that till the rewatch lol) kind and caring despite the situation, and holds resentment towards her step-family but finds herself in too a poor situation to do anything about it. The stepsiblings while underdeveloped are a bit boorish and loud, some might say stupid even. They have dreams of a future with a prince and probably hold those aspirations due to growing up in a rich household and are loath to give up a lavish life even with dwindling money.

I'm not saying it's peak women or anything, it is still a Disney film lol.

But it's a way more variable female cast than something like Raya where every single woman besides Sisu acts the exact same. The last several female Disney/Pixar protagonist besides the Encanto one could be flipped around personality wise and none of the movie plots would change much.
Modern animated movies aren't feminist because the woman can kick ass. In fact all it is doing is create a new mold that a woman must fall into. Older Princesses in particular like Cinderella or Snow White have for years been targeted as weaker because they don't fit the new vision of what a woman MUST be while Disney gets to sit around, patting itself on the back because they have somehow become a new pioneer of womanhood, doing the bare minimum.

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 No.1572

>>1562
I think that’s a really interesting take that I’ve rarely seen mentioned elsewhere. People pushing for diversity and representation weren’t interested in writing cool characters. A lot of black women for example have no fucking personalities and no surprise people end up gravitating towards the male characters because they have a personality.

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>>1572
I wouldn't say that they aren't interested. I'd say it's more a case of being overly cautious for the sake of marketability and conforming to acceptable roles for women and minorities.

I think for big-budget productions things are focus tested so much characters get distilled in the process. Someone in the writers room probably cares but then they are smoothed out, undesirable qualities stripped away until there isn't even an interesting or unique character left.

I don't think these companies are actively trying to sabatoge representation or anything malicious like that, but when you fail to divisify the roles you give groups of people it becomes a problem. "Quirky black friend" isn't a issue except when that is the only role you write for African Americans. I feel the same way about modern mainstream female protagonists. They are all focus-tested to hell they become completely interchangeable. I also wouldn't care so much if companies like Disney didn't deride their past works because those women don't conform to their new mold of character.

This is normally the part where I'd say anime better, but while I do think there are significantly more roles for women Japan has an issue with exotizing black and tan ladies and using them as niche fanservice. Still like Queen of Sheba from FGO though she shined in Salem.

 No.1577

>>1546
>i personally think these sorts of complicated female relationships are rarely seen in other animanga.
You bring up a very good point there, anon. If I could get over the disgust of male neckbeards slobbering over PMMM ships I would enjoy them much more, but the complex relationships the girls had with each other mirrors why I like BL to begin with. Someone once said that BL is like "two men in a lesbian relationship" which is the best way to put it as the entire thing is based on two fictional men (i.e. not real sentient flesh and blood men) in a same-sex relationship written by a woman.

>>1573
>I feel the same way about modern mainstream female protagonists. They are all focus-tested to hell they become completely interchangeable.
Also good take. The uncanny, robotic presence they have makes them harder to sympathize with because they've been carefully calculated to conform to a formula instead of being organic. The writer has to self-censor and pull back punches because the world seemingly isn't ready for a female main acting and being treated like a real person.

>Still like Queen of Sheba from FGO though she shined in Salem.

I love her too! Crazy to see someone here liking such a niche character, all the smooches for you nonny mwah

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Does anyone have recs for strong female-driven anime?

I loved Kino's Journey, the 2003 one haven't seen the newest. Very well-written show with a super interesting world and a storybook feel.
Kino herself is a top-10 anime girl imo.

 No.1724

>>1573
>>1562

Anon you're really thoughtful tbh most people writing about this tend to think in a very one-dimensional way.

>They are all focus-tested to hell they become completely interchangeable.

I remember during the 2010s if you complained about female characters not having any flaws people would just label you as a misogynist or an NLOG for no real reason.

> If I could get over the disgust of male neckbeards slobbering over PMMM ships


I guess it depends on where you go to talk PMMM but I don't feel like I encounter men that much. Most of them just seethe about the show being edgy instead of super wholesome.

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>>1579
Akanesasu Shoujo is the best 4/10 anime ever made.
>>700
Roux is my Gundam wife. I don't love every Gundam but I will always respect Tomino for speaking the ultimate truth about female fans.

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>>1545
This would actually be a killer idea. I can picture a good OC art thread

 No.2021

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Everytime I rewatch NGE I gain more respect for the adults in it. I get why people mostly discuss Asuka and Rei since they are the face of the series, but Ritsuko and Misato are fantastic. I love how there is enough breadcrumbs dropped about there relationship pre-series to speculate on the exact nature of their friendship and I'm surprised more people don't ship them or at the very least draw them together more often.

It's sad NGE attracted such a degenerate fanbase, it can't be understated how complex even the secondary characters are. Way more than just a cumbrain show.

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>>2021
I cant believe after 10 years of laughing off watching it to my friends that your post is the one that's going to make me watch the show.

 No.4862

>>4858
Anon your second and third one are exactly my tastes down to the last detail that if you didn't include siscon I would be suspecting that I wrote this in my sleep. But honestly, dynamics like this are so, so rare in f/f pairings.

To be honest a lot of the dynamics I like in f/f are very similar to what I like with m/m ships but yuri very rarely delivers. The stakes are always yawn-inducingly low and the characters never feel interesting, either it's painfully mundane regular women with little to no conflict or a moidish interpretation of one. I'm a messy girl and I want to read about stories that go hard. I'm specifically a huge sucker for butch/femme where it's the masculine girl who's being emotionally weaker than the feminine one.

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I've seen this GL get very popular recently, I haven't read it so I wanted to know what you nonnies thought about it. It's getting an anime too.

 No.8555

>>2021
Agree, the adults in NGE are extremely relatable and I wish more anime series had adult characters with actual adult issues in them rather than endless rehashing of teenage angst.

 No.8556

>>8553
It's a cute read, basically a SoL light romance with a bunch of music references. Wouldn't say the story is special in a really good or bad way. The art is definitely the main draw for it.

 No.8557

>>8553
I really enjoy the premise of having a more masculine lesbian character because that's rare as hell but also I kinda don't like the "b-but I thought she was a boy!!!" angle because it feels… like heterofying the experience too much? I hate the "but we're both men" and "will they won't they" tropes in BL too but being a butch lesbian myself I'm not really enjoying the whole point of the story being that she thinks that a nerdy girl is some cool alt guy that she's crushing on instead of the story being straight up about it being a lesbian romance.

But that said, if I was younger I would enjoy it a lot and relate to the GNC protagonist way more, it seems to be written for teenagers to begin with because the narration is fairly simple and has that teenage experience spirit to it. I'm not trying to poo-poo all over it, I think it's a great change to regular CGDCT dogshit GL manga made for coomers and I hope it'll inspire more of its kind.

 No.8560

>>8553
The "yeah they're kinda fruity but nothing fucking happens" genre isn't for me. Reading this reminded me of getting baited by Sound! Euphonium.
>>8557
>I was younger I would enjoy it a lot
I would have been alllll over this 15 years ago. I try to keep my hater energy low for BL/GL.

 No.8615

>>8560
I think a significant romantic development happened recently? But you’re right for a lot of it, it was a slow burn that kinda felt just like yuri bait. I liked a one shot this author wrote which was a brocon x bro’s gf.

 No.9412

What unashamedly horny yuri would appeal to my BL tastes? I want to be able to get off to something but there's too much boring pure uwu stuff to filter for a beginner.

 No.9414

>>9412
Seconding this request!

 No.9415

>>9412
If you’ve read sadistic beauty you should check out the yuri sidestory.

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>>9414
>>9412
I'm legitimately curious how everyone here feels about 7menzippo's yuri series since she assumed only men would buy it at the start yet it ended up being significantly more successful with fujoshi in Japan to the point where they got the direction the story was going to take (what little story there was) changed and it topped both the "women's manga" and "TL manga" sections on cmoa.jp (Pixiv favorites make this obvious too) while guys didn't really give a damn.

 No.9419

>>9418
IME women are just better at "porn with plot" (doubly so if they are fujoshi).

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>>9418
Looking at how they're draw, it's not that surprising, considering that women, regardless of sexuality, like princely characters, men or women. After all, there is a reason why a character like Rika tops the annual yume/fu charts despite being a woman. Not sure if men like this sort of archetype considering the type of tomboys I've the majority of them lust over still looking considerably feminine.

 No.9421

>>9420
Mens tomboy fantasies entirely revolve around taking the tomboy and putting her in a dress or otherwise feminizing her, they have no capability of appreciating a woman's natural masculinity as it is, its poison to them.

 No.9422

>>9412
Any GL smut manhwa if you can stomach the typical storylines.

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>>9421
>Mens tomboy fantasies entirely revolve around taking the tomboy and putting her in a dress or otherwise feminizing her
It's a curse, because tomboy art usually revolves around male fantasies so it's rare to see one that I like. But, also a blessing, because I won't have to be around the insufferable types of men.
Speaking of which, are there any yuri manga that features this archetype that attracts women (aside from 7menzippo's stuff, though that looks more princely than tomboy, however the lines blur here)? I know it's more common in manhwa, but I don't like its format, so I was hoping to find more manga like that.

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>>9420
On one hand yes, on the other hand the whole thing is presented in a way commonly seen as "masculine" with a focus on big breasts and fetishistic elements like high-heels, short skirts and pantyhose. Yet her audience turned out to love it. These are mild examples, just google "7menzippo yuri" and you'll get it.

 No.9427

>>9425
Must be the elongated limbs, I notice this a lot in many female mangaka’s works.

 No.9432

>>9425
>the whole thing is presented in a way commonly seen as "masculine" with a focus on big breasts and fetishistic elements like high-heels, short skirts and pantyhose.
This is such a weird, unnecessarily gendered notion. If I am attracted to women, of course I'm going to like all that. The more saucy the better.

 No.9436

>>9432
Oh trust me I agree 100% with you. This manga's success overwhelmingly with women is a huge "told you so" moment for me.

 No.9667

>>9418
I hate office love as a genre to begin with so it's not for me personally, but I can see why women would like it more than men because for one thing the women look like adults and have short hair. Two things that otaku men find absolutely reprehensible.

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I absolutely adore calm and relaxing shows with lots of female characters or stylish female characters from vidja.
>>1562
Anon you make really good points. There are many, many video essays about how every nu-Disney protagonists have the same quirky personality or how corporate meddling scrubs out any slightly ambitious plot point or character (see Wish fandom based on unused cute Starboy concept).

 No.11875

I've become a himejoshi for some gacha coomerslop… there's no saving me.

But anyway, does anyone remember the shoujoai.com forums? There were hella moids but there did actually seem to be a large number of actual women on that site.

 No.11876

>>11875
If the ship sails it sails, simple as.
>shoujoai.com forums
I do very faintly. I assumed most people there were also girls because fanfic/ship discussion is overwhelmingly girls, even in male gaze-y f/f works. IME male tells turn up in nsfw works/RP where there's fuckin but it's not at all erotic lol.

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>>1538
PMMM was the first time I ever got invested in F/F ships, to this day HomuMado is still one of my OTPs.

Sadly I couldn't get invested in the Magia Record anime, there were too many characters that felt very surface-level, plus the pacing was bad. Dropped it after season 2 and didn't bother with the last season. Not sure if the game was any better, not that it matters anyway since it's dead and impossible to play now due to being a gacha live service.

 No.11899

>>11895
PMMM spinoffs all seem to be cursed with garbage OCs, terrible fanservicey outfits and none of the original charm, probably due to being handled by different writers/artists. I loved Different Story though.

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She's cool as hell and easily the best dr character, the end of chapter 3 solidified this for me. I truly believe she deserves the best. It makes me really happy how she's gotten more comfortable being vulnerable without losing her roughness hate how the fandom mischaracterizes her though

 No.12112

>>11954
Agreed. I love her development and she really does deserve the best, it has me dreading the future of the game. I can't imagine bogging down such a good and interesting character (among others) with a shitty ending, but as much as I have faith in the writing, it is a possibility.
How do you think the fandom mischaracterizes her? I know she sometimes gets ignored because she doesn't have much of a connection to the deeplore or she doesn't appear that complex, but when she is included she seems mostly in-character.

 No.12234

Recommend me some good smut

 No.12235

>>12234
Sadistic Beauty: Side Story and Drunken My Boss. If you don't mind trashy plots, Korean manhwa is my go to for GL smut. Yuri manga doesn't have much good ones in my experience, they're always awkwardly posed kyaaaa scissoring scenes. I love Otome no Keikoku though (ecchi not smut).

 No.12238

>>12235
Some recs for Japanese authors I'm curious what you'd think about from a skim

https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/hiiragi_yutaka
https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/sekihara_umina
https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/ootomo_megane
https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/minase_ruruu ("This is a Great Hug Pillow" has a ton of one-shots)

You probably know Sal Jiang.

 No.12239

>>12238
Thanks for the recs nonna! I read through a few from each mangaka and they're pretty good. Hiiragi Yutaka's actually had that slight uguu moeness I'm not that big of a fan of but the sex scenes depicted otherwise were really sensual so hers ended up being my favorites kek. I really like Ootomo Megane's art style too, read some of other works available on mangadex afterwards.
>You probably know Sal Jiang.
heh heh of course.
>>12235
Just realized I misspelled Teikoku, my bad.

 No.12620

Are there any good GL manhua? I want to get into it since most authors actually seem to be women, but the art style tends to turn me off. Also, I've been watching a good amount of lesbian films like Go Fish, Saving Face and The Watermelon Woman (peak, though I feel some anons would find it too woke or whatever). Are there any live-action lesbian movies any one likes that's written and ideally directed by a woman? I don't really care about what country it's from as long as the actresses can actually emote/don't have iphone face. I'm a hardcore fujo, but I don't really like live action BL lol. Real men are gross, real women aren't–at least on the silver screen!

 No.12621

>>12620
All the ones I can name off the top of my head are either directed by a woman and/or based on a novel written by one. Portrait of a Lady on Fire, Fingersmith (I liked The Handmaiden too but it’s directed by a man and is slightly different from the original so you might not idk), Desert Hearts, My First Summer, Carol, The Miseducation of Cameron Post (not romance just lesbian themed)

 No.12622

>>12621
wow, thanks so for this! Fingersmith and Desert Hearts are right up my alley! love you mucho

 No.12624

>>12622
If you liked Fingersmith, there's also a BBC series adaptation of Tipping the Velvet, which is another Sarah Waters novel. However, it's directed by a dude.

Update on my coomerbait gachaslop waifu: I still love her but she keeps getting shipbaited with a character I despise. Harumph. Yeah well! In my headcanon I'm still married to her, so there! I may turn to some dark places for copium, like GenAI…

 No.12635

>>12624
I don't totally mind movies directed by a dude unless the movie ends up being as gross and disrespectful to the lead actresses like Blue is the Warmest Colour (which i will never watch). So, thank you again!

Your waifu deserves better than whatever character she's being shipbaited with. Why even ship gacha characters other than yourself? She's your waifu for as long as you want her

 No.12637

>>12635
I will also never watch Blue is the Warmest Color, bleh.

Thanks, I actually really needed to hear that. I’ve been taking Ls in other places recently, so it sincerely cheered me up.

 No.12871

I've never been taken in by most yuribaiting since yuribaiting is usually done for gross men who want to see lolis in CGDCTs being fetishized in a 'pure' lesbian relationship (i.e. Hidamari Sketch which I liked as an uninformed teen, but didn't like the weird shipbait). BUT I have been yuribaiting by one anime and one anime only: Carole and Tuesday. But the thing is, I don't even think Carole and Tuesday were ever meant to be yuribait, I think I just came into the show with a(n unfounded) notion that they were going to get together. I should have never expected that and yet I did and I couldn't finish the damn show because they introduced a male love interest for one of them/there were the vibes of it. I was just plain delusional and I usually don't even go into non-BL/GL expecting any type of gay relationship. Has anyone else been yuribaited despite the anime/manga actually not having yuribait in it?

 No.12873

>>12871
This is going to be a different situation from yours since there is no het or canon relationships in the show, but the only time I truly felt yuribaited and disappointed was with love live superstar.
First three episodes made me invested in Keke and Kanon just for the story to do a 180 and make the childhood friend much more important while reducing Keke to a comedic relief side character and pairing her up with another (ugly) side character. I ended up not finishing the first season because of the disappointment.
Still mad.

 No.12875

>>12873
I hate when that happens!! what's the point of early shiptease if you're just going to drop it later on?

 No.12876

>>12873
>the only time I truly felt yuribaited and disappointed was with love live superstar
I still get a little mad when I think about Eupho. That intensity between Kumiko and Reina followed by Reina being like "BTW KUMIKO I NEED TAKI-SENSEI IN MY ASS, PUSSY, MOUTH, AND EARS IMMEDIATELY"

 No.12877

>>12876
Hibike euphonium is the one time I will say the "queerbaiting" accusations were correct. That shit was genuinely upsetting. I don't mind yuribait stuff like love live and the like, I enjoy those shows, but euph felt actually like it was done in bad faith… Also Kumiko and Reina remind me of teenage me and my best friend who eventually married a guy and it's x2 as upsetting lel

 No.12893

>>12873
Sumire isn't ugly wtf

 No.12894

>>12893
I hate hair drills…
Sorry for calling her ugly in case you like her, just my taste.

 No.12895

>>12894
Fair enough kek, she is just my favorite so I got a little offended. I'm not a big fan of drills either but I never thought of the little curls around her face as drills



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